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Offline Jeffy

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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2006, 02:13:12 PM »
Here's my friend's old TJ.

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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2006, 04:46:17 PM »
Ok, Ok...  Tire lift is fun, it is cool to see and a blast to do but....

Tire lift is, no traction on the ground.  Not traction means no forward motion.  No forward motion means...  your stuck!  (well, lockers excluded on this one).

Those pictures that I showed (that the right word, right?) showed??  Shown, had shown...  The pictures that you guys saw of that red Jeep Renagade...  He has a Warn 4 coil conversion...   We used to get his tire to lift and drive it for many a feet...  Like almost 50 feet I'm guessing...  Ya, it was a real head turner!!

It's cool that you got a picture of that Jeffy...  You don't see it too often.

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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2006, 05:54:59 PM »
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Ok, Ok...  Tire lift is fun, it is cool to see and a blast to do but....

Tire lift is, no traction on the ground.  Not traction means no forward motion.  No forward motion means...  your stuck!  (well, lockers excluded on this one).

Those pictures that I showed (that the right word, right?) showed??  Shown, had shown...  The pictures that you guys saw of that red Jeep Renagade...  He has a Warn 4 coil conversion...   We used to get his tire to lift and drive it for many a feet...  Like almost 50 feet I'm guessing...  Ya, it was a real head turner!!

It's cool that you got a picture of that Jeffy...  You don't see it too often.


Actually this is a bit different...
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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2006, 08:16:09 PM »
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Actually this is a bit different...


Oh??  what do you mean?  Are you talking about off road, tire lifting, no traction compared to on road, tire lifting fun?

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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2006, 08:36:52 PM »
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Quote from: "Jeffy"
Actually this is a bit different...


Oh??  what do you mean?  Are you talking about off road, tire lifting, no traction compared to on road, tire lifting fun?


Well, it was a question on the validity of a leaf conversion on a TJ in order to stop induced tire pick up.  Which is a bit different then being off camber situation since even a leaf sprung Jeep will exibit some tire lift.  Does that make sense?  I'm not even sure anymore. LOL!   :nothing:  :wave:
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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2006, 10:13:22 PM »
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4.88s....that'll get you everything you'll ever need...with 33s itll be lower than stock but still ramain somewhat normal with the gas milage...4.88s and 36s would be the same as stock (well close anyway...)

Naw, 5.38 is the route to take with 35" and 36", 5.13 is closer to ideal for 33" and a 4banger.  4.88 are only popular because that's as low as you can go in stock axles, and barely adequate if at all.

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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2006, 07:42:37 PM »
i am overheating because going uphill im at such high RPMs for so long . my jeep is constantly at 200 usually at 210 just driving around town even if in the mornings when its cold. so if i use the 4.88s i can use the stock axle but if i go with the 5.13s ive got to swap the axle? how well will 4.88s do for me? will i be able to make it uphill at 50mph? and maintain my speed on the freeway? and where can i buy 4.88s at? what all do i need to swap gears? thanks for your help.

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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2006, 08:09:12 PM »
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i am overheating because going uphill im at such high RPMs for so long . my jeep is constantly at 200 usually at 210 just driving around town even if in the mornings when its cold. so if i use the 4.88s i can use the stock axle but if i go with the 5.13s ive got to swap the axle? how well will 4.88s do for me? will i be able to make it uphill at 50mph? and maintain my speed on the freeway? and where can i buy 4.88s at? what all do i need to swap gears? thanks for your help.


Hmm, never had the overheating problem but it's something to take into consideration.  You are correct that going to 5.13 or lower will require an axle swap.

Without knowing what size tires you currently have, it's hard to determine what you'r RPM's and speeds will be.  BUT with 33's you should be ok.  You'll be on the higher side but generally it shouldn't be too bad.  This will be a huge change for teh ebtter if you currently have stock gears.

For 4.88 gears you will need to buy them from Superior, Yukon or USAllow, I believe.  They are sold by different 4x4 shops like QTech and 4wdH, etc... ,as  well as gear warehouses like Randy's R&P, West Coast Differential, etc...

You will also need to buy a 'Master Install kit' and make sure it has new carrier bearings with it. You will need two kits, one for each gear set.  You will also need someone to install them.  Prices vary greatly depending on where you look.  4X4 shops will be more expensive then speed shops.  If you can bring the axles into the shop out of the vehicle, you can usually save a bit more.  You can see prices anywhere from $50-400.
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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2006, 08:50:33 PM »
You might want to think about electric fan conversion like flex-a-lite for the heating issue. http://www.flex-a-lite.com/auto/html/jeep-wrangler.html

The Black Diamond Xtreme Coil Link (XCL) X2 system is now for the CJ, YJ, & TJ actually puts leafs on the rear for the TJ kit and has shown some advantages for hardcore rock-climbing at Moab.
 
http://www.superlift.com/suspension/jeep/BD-X2.asp

http://www.4wheelonline.com/jeep/Categories.aspx?CategoryId=25810

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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2006, 09:40:42 PM »
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You might want to think about electric fan conversion like flex-a-lite for the heating issue. http://www.flex-a-lite.com/auto/html/jeep-wrangler.html

The Black Diamond Xtreme Coil Link (XCL) X2 system is now for the CJ, YJ, & TJ actually puts leafs on the rear for the TJ kit and has shown some advantages for hardcore rock-climbing at Moab.
 
http://www.superlift.com/suspension/jeep/BD-X2.asp

http://www.4wheelonline.com/jeep/Categories.aspx?CategoryId=25810


Wow, that kit is really interesting.  Kinda like the Fabtech for the YJ.
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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2006, 11:38:29 PM »
www.completeoffroad.com is a good place for gears, lockers, and install kits.

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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2006, 01:02:20 PM »
thanks alot for all your help youve helped alot. ill be getting it done soon

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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2006, 02:24:37 PM »
If you're not going to be ready for a front axle swap anytime soon, get the 4.88's.  They make a WORLD of difference.  I used to lose speed going up overpasses in Houston with the stock 4.10's after my lift.  I can cruise all day in 5th with no trouble now!

Yea, the 4.88's for the D30 are thin, but always take into account that we 4bangers don't have the torque to hurt anything like that (well..not very often anyway).

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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2006, 02:29:57 PM »
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If you're not going to be ready for a front axle swap anytime soon, get the 4.88's.  They make a WORLD of difference.  I used to lose speed going up overpasses in Houston with the stock 4.10's after my lift.  I can cruise all day in 5th with no trouble now!

Yea, the 4.88's for the D30 are thin, but always take into account that we 4bangers don't have the torque to hurt anything like that (well..not very often anyway).


+1 I have never heard of anyone, 2.5L or 4.0L that has broken their gears because they were "thin".  So I really wouldn't worry about that.  You'll probably break something else before the gears anyway.
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