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Offline Jeffy

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Factory Option High-Output Alternators
« on: September 27, 2005, 01:56:15 PM »
Denso: 1991 to Present

90 amp alternator:

     1997-1998 Dodge Dakota 2.5L - (PN:56005685AC Reman:R6005685AC)
     1991-1998 Jeep Cherokee - (PN:56005685AB Reman:R6005685AB)
     1991-1992 Jeep Comanche - (PN:56005685AB Reman:R6005685AB)
     1992-1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee - (PN:56005685AB Reman:R6005685AB)
     1991-2002 Jeep Wrangler 2.5L - (PN:56005685AC Reman:R6005685AC)
     1991-2006 Jeep Wrangler 2.4L 4.0L - (PN:56005684AB Reman:R6005684AB)
     1999-2002 Jeep Cherokee 2.5L 4.0L - (PN:56041822AA Reman:R6041822AA)

117 amp alternator:

     1997-1998 Dodge Dakota 2.5L - (PN:56005685 Reman:R6005685)
     1999-2001 Dodge Ram Van 3.9L, 5.2L, 5.9L - (PN:56027912AB Reman:R6027912AB)
     1999-2001 Dodge Dakota 3.9L, 5.2L, 5.9L - (PN:56027912AB Reman:R6027912AB)
     1999-2001 Dodge Ram Truck 3.9L, 5.2L, 5.9L - (PN:56027912AB Reman:R6027912AB)
     1999-2001 Dodge Durango 3.9L, 5.2L, 5.9L - (PN:56027912AB Reman:R6027912AB)
     1999-2000 Dodge Dakota 2.5L - (PN:56005685(AC) Reman:R6005685(AC))
     1999-2002 Jeep Wrangler 2.5L - (PN:56005685AC Reman:R6005685AC)
     1999-2006 Jeep Wrangler 2.5L, 4.0L - (PN:56005684AB Reman:R6005684AB)
     2000 Jeep Wrangler 4.0L - (PN:56041685AA Reman:R6041685AA)
     1991-1998 Jeep Cherokee 2.5l, 4.0L - (PN:56005685AB Reman:R6005685AB)
     1999-2002 Jeep Cherokee 2.5L, 4.0L - (PN:56041822AA Reman:R6041822AA)
     1991-1992 Jeep Comanche - (PN:56005685AB Reman:R6005685AB)
     1993-1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L - (PN:56005685 Reman:R6005685)
     2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.7L - (PN:56041324AC Reman:R6041324AC)

136 amp alternator*:

     1996-1998 Dodge B.Series Van - (PN:56027913 Reman:R6027913)
     1996-1998 Dodge Dakota 3.9L, 4.7L, 5.9L - (PN:56027913 Reman:R6027913)
     1998-2000 Dodge Dakota - (PN:56027913AB Reman:R6027913AC)
     2003-2005 Dodge Dakota 3.9L, 4.7L, 5.9L - (PN:56041693AC Reman:R6041693AC)
     1998-1999 Dodge Durango - (PN:56027913 Reman:R6027913)
     1996-1998 Dodge Ram Pickup - (PN:56027913 Reman:R6027913)
     1998-2000 Dodge Ram Pickup - (PN:56027913AB Reman:R6027913AC)
     1991-1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee - (PN:56005685 Reman:R6005685)
     2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.7L - (PN:56041324AC Reman:R6041324AC)
     2001-2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.9L, 4.7L, 5.9L - (PN:56041693AC Reman:R6041693AC)

150 amp alternator*:

     1993-1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee - (PN:56041394AA Reman:R6041394AA)

160 amp alternator*:

     2001-2005 Dodge Dakota - (PN:56029914AA Reman:R6029914AA)
     2001-2005 Dodge B.Series Van - (PN:56029914AA Reman:R6029914AA)

* Some additional modifications required.

Delco-Remy: 1987-1990 12SI

94 amp Delco-Remy 12SI

     1987-84 Buick
     1987-84 Cadillac
     1987-84 Chevrolet
     1987-84 GMC
     1987-84 Oldsmobile
     1987-84 Pontiac
     1987-84 AMC
     1987-90 Jeep

*note 12SI's come in three clock positions, 3, 9 and 12.

85-105 amp Delco-Remy CS-130 (130mm Stator)

     1990-88 Buick Estate Wagon 5.0L
     1990-88 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham (RWD) 5.0L
     1990-88 Chevrolet Caprice 5.0L
     1990-88 Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser 5.0L
     1989-88 Pontiac Safari Wagon 5.0L

85-105 amp Delco-Remy CS-130(D) (130mm Stator)

     1994-2000 Most GM vehicles

*1994 to 1996 GM used both the CS-130 and CS-130 D.

Improvements over the CS-130 Alternator include:

          ˇ  More open design for better air flow
          ˇ  Larger bearings
          ˇ  Dual Internal Fans to increase air volume
          ˇ  Regulator and Rectifier located on the outside, away from stator and rotor heat.


140 amp Delco-Remy CS-144 (144mm Stator)

     1987-2002 Many GM Vehicles
     1996-94 Buick Roadmaster 5.7L
     1996-93 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham (RWD) 5.7L
     1996-93 Chevrolet Caprice 4.3L, 5.7L
     1996-95 Chevrolet Impala 5.7L
     1995-92 Chevrolet Lumina APV Van 3.8L
     1995-92 Oldsmobile Silhouette 3.8L
     1995-92 Pontiac Trans Sport 3.8L

The CS-144 was the Factory Optional High output Upgrade. The CS-144 alternator is more reliable alternator than the CS-130 or CS-130D in 140 amp versions. It's larger size and mass can absorb and dissipate the heat generated much better than a smaller alternator.
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Re: Factory Option High-Output Alternators
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2007, 10:18:56 PM »
PART II: Installing a Denso



So with the chart in hand you're ready to go out and search for an alternator.  After adding a GPS to the Jeep, Aux. lights, stereo with amp and subwoofer, winch and the FoMoCo Electric Fan.  The stock alternator was left struggling so say the least.  The easiest way to tell is if you can hear the high pitch whine of the alternator.  Under a heavy load the alternator will whine as it tries to keep up with the power draw.

Is the list your only choice?  No, you can get custom wound alternators that are rebuilt by experts who can bump up the amperage.  Sometimes you can get your stock alternator reworked depending on the size of the alternator housing.

As you can see with the list. TJ's have a leg up on YJ's.  (XJ's would depend on the year. )  A stock YJ will normally have a 75A alternator stock.  There is a Heavy Duty package that replaces that with a 90A alternator.  The TJ, upped that to an 81A with an option for an 117A.  Even if you own a TJ, it would be a good idea to upgrade the alternator.   The most common alternator you can fins is probably the 136A version.  If you want to go higher you might want to check out a local alternator rebuilder or check ebay.  That's were I got mine.

Instead of getting a 136A, I settled on a custom built 170A alternator which came with a two-year warranty.  The alternator showed up with a 7-groove pulley.  Most likely this was removed from a Dodge truck.  There was no other markings on the alternator.  The overall size of the new alternator was a little larger then the stock 75A it was replacing.  I have read that the 7-groove pulley can be used but it's very easy to swap the pulleys.  You will need a gear puller and it's a whole lot easier if you have an impact wrench.

Before I get too far ahead of myself, you will need to get the old alternator out.  On a YJ, you will need to loosen three bolts on the Power Steering Pump and loosen the tensioner lock nut.  On a TJ, you will need to loosen the tension idler pulley under the Power Steering Pump.



There are two bolts holding the alternator on.  The upper bolt passes though two brackets and has a nut on the end.  The other bolt passes through the alternator and into the engine bracket.  Before you can remove the alternator you will need to disconnect the Oil Pressure sensor which is located on the engine block behind the alternator.  It should be a light blue wire.  Once that is disconnected the alternator can now be pulled out towards the passenger fender.  With the alternator turned around so it faces the firewall, you will see a black box at the top with some bolts.  Undo the field terminal connectors, ground, hold down and Positive terminal. 



Once those are disconnected the alternator will them come out.  With the alternator on the bench you will need to remove the plastic insulator and swap it with the one from the old alternator.  There is a alignment pin so the insulator can only be installed one way.  The Dodge unit point the wrong way.




Reverse the steps and make sure you connect the Oil Pressure sensor back.

The last step is to start the engine up.  Even with the electric fan turning all the time, once the engine starts up, the alternator has no problems keeping up.  No more whine!
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Re: Factory Option High-Output Alternators
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2007, 01:58:45 PM »
Thanks for the info Jeffy...the wife is definitely sick of the whining Jeep...and now that I have to pull out some mornings, I'm starting to get embarrased in the driveway when it won't stop.  Pretty easy upgrade from the looks of it.  Was the eBay site a store??  Link for more alternators??
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Re: Factory Option High-Output Alternators
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2007, 06:34:34 PM »
Thanks for the info Jeffy...the wife is definitely sick of the whining Jeep...and now that I have to pull out some mornings, I'm starting to get embarrased in the driveway when it won't stop.  Pretty easy upgrade from the looks of it.  Was the eBay site a store??  Link for more alternators??

It was pretty easy with zero fabrication.  Took me around 30 minutes taking my time to take pictures.  I bought mine from these guys.

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