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sloth

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WHITCHCRAFT and SECRET POTIONS
« on: January 20, 2009, 06:32:09 PM »
has anybody actually fixed the top end noise in their 2.5 without resorting to the use of whitchcraft or secret potions such as oil treatments and the like?

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Re: WHITCHCRAFT and SECRET POTIONS
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2009, 06:59:38 PM »
An AMC engine isn't a Swiss clock.  As long as it's not an exhaust leak or a stuck lifter, it's normal for the noise, just get used to it.  It should go away once you get on the throttle and get the oil pump really turning.  That reminds me there was a hi-flow oil pump available a long time ago...
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Re: WHITCHCRAFT and SECRET POTIONS
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2009, 09:37:10 PM »
this is the third 2.5 i have owned. one was bought new with 13 miles on it and sold with 120000. no noise. the other is beat on HARD by a friend who wants it to blow so he can swap it out. 2 seasons, no noise, yet. the tick in mine is worse after warm up, when the oil thins out, but you can hear it always. between gears if you over-rev some it sounds like the valves float. with a stethescope you can hear the lash (tick) in cyl 3&4 mostly 4. it seems that oil potions can do one or more of three things, thin oil, thicken oil, clean sludge deposits. it dosen't make sense that it could thicken oil and dissolve sludge at the same time. and if it thins the oil more than when it is hot the noise would be worse. most of these i have seen are not ment to be driven with or left in the motor for an extended period. my piont is, my lifters are new. and if they are pumped up properly they are getting good oil flow. the lash (noise-tick) has to be somewhere right? i didn't notice any abnormal wear on the rockers or pushrods. i didn't really inspect the valve stem tops or go any further that day because i expected the lifter swap to take care of it, i was mistaken. in my opinion there has to be wear-lash some where or possibly weak springs. but if the new lifters are not pumped up when i pull them tomorrow then can i assume there is a restriction or a flow problem? thanks for any input

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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2009, 09:05:00 PM »
Give in and buy some Lucas Top Engine Lubricate. Its like $13 for a 1L  (good for 10 gas fills) or go to partsource and buy a gallon for $25 something.

I've used it in two cars, both had top engine noise. Worked within 50-100 miles. Once the noise stops you can either put in half as much or none @ all when you fill up.  I add it to my gas ever 3rd fill, just as preventive treatment.

I've used alot of LUCAS products. I swear by em.

sloth

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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2009, 09:41:17 PM »
aginst my better judgement i used lucas yesterday. it turns out that it did not mysteriously add any metal any where to take up the lash in my valvetrain. i only did this because it was free and we have had over a foot of snow and i haven't wanted to get water all in my shop. as soon as it drys up some i will pull the cover again and go from there. also i do not mean to sound harsh but if you took your vette, viper, or even your trusty JEEP to be repaired under warranty and they instructed you to put a magic potion in that would "cure" (mask) a top end noise, at the least you should find another dealer. also i am relatively certain if i fill it with 90w it will be silent, but it's not for sale.