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Krod

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Helped with my exhaust...now critique my lift plans
« on: January 05, 2006, 09:46:45 PM »
Time to mod  :twisted:
BUT i need some input on setups.

My current starting point:

94 YJ 2.5L   STOCK (suspension wise)
TJ flares
Daystar poly body mounts

My plans:
2.5" BDS
5/8" MORE boomerang Shackles
33x10.50x15"  BFG MT
At some point a new skidplate and a 1" MML and BL
Lock the D30 (either OX or lockright)  

So...critque my plan...
This is my DD, so i'm not needing a ton of lift.  Need to clear the 33's comfortably, but i dont need to go SOA.  
I would also like some input from you guys that went belly-up skids on your YJs.  


Thanks guys!

BlackYJ

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Helped with my exhaust...now critique my lift plans
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2006, 07:42:23 AM »
I would also add a 1" body lift just to help clear the 33s.  I had a problem where my YJ flexed too much and bottomed out on the top of my fender and it is now cracked.

I am running 2" OME, 1" BL and 1" shackle lift with TJ flares and I clear my 33" SSRs just barely (plus the SSRs are a big 33).  If you add a 1" BL you will have no problems and it won't be too high.  4" of lift is usually the recommended minimum to clear 33s for a YJ

Offline jagular7

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Re: Helped with my exhaust...now critique my lift plans
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2006, 07:59:08 AM »
It's your plan and not more of a critique but more of suggestions of other things to think about.
Here's what I do, assuming it's in good running condition already, has good seats, seat belts, fire extinguisher, cb, etc.

- SOA with stock springs or add in waggy rear springs from JCWhitney and match front with lift springs; work with length of spring to add correct length shackles and shocks
- t-case SYE, possibly lower low or another t-case all-together (ie. flipped 300)
- switch to 33x9.5's MTs on stock 15" rims, or 35x10.5's MT on better offset 16" rims (switch to 16" rims for potentially more variety on taller tires in metric sizes - tall&skinny)
- posi-lock the front and rid of the vacuum disconnect (or rid of the disconnect and run single axle shaft)(does the 94 come with 297x joints?)
- gears to match tire choice; if locking front, lock rear also, lunchbox lockers (Aussie, LR, EZ, etc)
- flat belly skid
- add winch and better frame hook points, add front cage hoop, add rock sliders


To each his own. I'd start with a good foundation on the suspension. This is the heart of knowing what tires/wheels you are going to use, how you are going to use the YJ most of the time (mostly on road, etc), and it's a stepping process to learn the weaknesses and positives of the YJ. After the suspension and tires, gears/(lockers) are added to compensate the tires. Once that is done, look at safety items (cage) as you will want to test the suspension, gears, lockers, and tires out. Next would come better protection for the Jeep in situations of wheeling - thus skid plate, rock sliders, frame recovery mounts, winch, etc. The rest is either much of convenience or preference like tool boxes, spare parts, console, swing tire carrier, etc.

Do know that modifying a YJ on stock suspension, axles, etc you will be addicted to bigger and better things. Sometimes, what you plan on modifying will come as a necessary earlier than planned due to breaking. So take that into consideration. (Meaning the axles, axle shafts, lockers, joints, etc).


Good luck.

BTW, know anyone in the PAJeeps club? They have lots of YJ in the club with a variety of lifts. Back several years ago, Rubicon Express put out the SOA for the YJ. Lots of them ran that with the 33x9.5 MT on stock rims. Work really well in the PA trails.
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Offline Jeffy

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Helped with my exhaust...now critique my lift plans
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2006, 12:36:25 PM »
If I was in your shoes, here's what I'd do;  since you want to clear 33's, you'll need the the clearance of about 4" of lift to be safe and not have the tires rubbing the flares all the time.  With the TJ flares that should give you 1-2" clearance.

For the lift, I'd really consider Rubicon Express's Extreme Duty kits or OME.  BSD's are popular back East but they're standard off the shelf leafs and are a rare site out West.  Do it right once and you want have to complain about having to do it again later.  You could also go with custom built leafs if you do your homework.  This means knowing how about how much gear you'll be keeping in the Jeep.  You'll have to buy your own U-bolts, shocks, trackbar extensions (if you want to keep them.) and figure out how to extend the brakelines.  (it's in the How-To.)  Alcan Springs of Colorado, makes some nice leafs for a decent price ($150 each).

Since you're looking into a flat skidplate, that means SYE.  If you're going SYE you really might as well go with a 4.5" Extreme Duty kit.  You should have plenty of room even with stock flares and shouldn't be too tall.  (Only an inch difference after the body lift.)...

If money is a problem, then invest in the best suspension you can.  Hopefully it's a RE Extreme Duty 2.5" or OME.  But like what BlackYJ runs, I'd recommend a whole package spreading the lift between shackles, suspension and body lift.  You'll want to extend your bumpstops to keep the tires off the fenders though.

Honestly, a SOA or a SOA/SUA would look good with 33's.  You'd get a stock ride with lots of flex for the trail but it's more difficult to do inless you do some research.
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Helped with my exhaust...now critique my lift plans
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2006, 05:18:58 PM »
Thanks guys.  Lots of good input....and lots of things i've had in my head as well  :D

The main reason I do not want to go SOA is the cost of "doing it right"....( i.e. having the right tools, parts, knowledge, and most of all...TIME)  SOA would be my best option, i know that...but i simply cannot afford to have it down for that long while I cut and re-weld, re-align, and fab the necessary parts.  

A few guys locally run the RE lifts as well as the BDS.  I was partial to BDS because of the warranty...no questions asked.  A few locals are running my "planned" setup ( 33's  1" BL or TJ flares, 2.5" suspension, 5/8'' Boomerang shackles) and their YJ's work great on or off the trail.  I do not need 4" of suspension for the type of wheeling I do.  

Black YJ,
I think the 1" BL is a good idea to keep my tires out of the sheetmetal.  I may end up combining that with a 1" mml and 1" BL  together.  Do you have any pics of your setup?  


Thanks guys.  Keep the input flowing...it helps to hear first hand experiences with the products I'm looking at!

Chowmaster

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Helped with my exhaust...now critique my lift plans
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2006, 07:48:38 PM »
I used a superlift 2.5" lift and RE 1" greasable shackles with 33x10.50.  I also put tj flares in the rear but havent done the front yet.  The 2.5" lift seemed like it only lifted it an inch.  But it rides very well and seemes to have good articulation.  Tire rub isnt an issue anywhere but i think my stock brakelines are acting like limiting straps.  I wouldnt get a 33x1050 again, just looks too skinny, but has performed well (Tsl) Also i dont like the way the lift shackle looks in the front, looks like it decreases approach angle severly, but havent had any problems with it.  When i get my front Tj flares on i will see how it does without the lift shackles, as i probably wont ever put the jeep through a lot of twisty stuff where the tires might rub.  I think the Tj flare is great mod for any yj or even cj. i just havent figured how to do it nicely on the front yet.