Topic: Unseating front coils need advice!!

[aw12345]

YJ's don't have to many problems with tons of droop, most of the time those Jeeps 3 wheel it lol. If you truely want 4 wheels on the ground almost all the time then it's on to coilovers,ORI's or air shocks. Coil springs or leaf springs just do not give that kind of travel, nor droop as easy and as well. There is just no comparison, the difference in a TJ with coil springs or coilovers is night and day. There is just no other way to put it

[neale_rs]

YJ's don't have to many problems with tons of droop, most of the time those Jeeps 3 wheel it lol. If you truely want 4 wheels on the ground almost all the time then it's on to coilovers,ORI's or air shocks. Coil springs or leaf springs just do not give that kind of travel, nor droop as easy and as well. There is just no comparison, the difference in a TJ with coil springs or coilovers is night and day. There is just no other way to put it

I think my YJ has more compression than droop, maybe equal amounts at best.  But this will change as the springs sag over time!

[Jeffy]

I think my YJ has more compression than droop, maybe equal amounts at best.  But this will change as the springs sag over time!

Optimally, you want equal amounts of both but usually this is not possible unless you make a special frame. There's just too much stuff in the way to shove an axle up high enough.

If you look at any desert racer, it's going to still have more downtravel then up.  Most cars and trucks have almost equal of both but they limit the downtravel with the swaybar.

It's kinda funny how having the axle drop out isn't a big deal on a TJ but when a YJ has Revolvers, they're the devil.

[sharpxmen]

the softer the ride the more downtravel (the way i see it, how much the spring compresses under the vehicle wheight).

[Bounty Hunter]

YJ's don't have to many problems with tons of droop, most of the time those Jeeps 3 wheel it lol.

I know not that which you speak.

[stan98tj]

I'm glad the overall responses here summed up that there is nothing wrong with the way my rig flexes. I for one, couldn't understand how my buddies or Savvy were telling me I had no traction with it unseated as I have a locker, so I'll keep moving regardless of the load on the spring...even if the drooped tire has no ground contact whatsoever, the stuffed wheel will continue to turn.

[Jeffy]

I'm glad the overall responses here summed up that there is nothing wrong with the way my rig flexes. I for one, couldn't understand how my buddies or Savvy were telling me I had no traction with it unseated as I have a locker, so I'll keep moving regardless of the load on the spring...even if the drooped tire has no ground contact whatsoever, the stuffed wheel will continue to turn.

As long as you're good with the occasional spring coming out of the bucket it's not a big deal.  The extra drop may look cool but it doesn't mean much in the real world.  This is why the RTI ramps aren't the be all end all.  Jeeps with limited suspension travel can sometimes make up for it with lockers.   Lockers are add another dimension.

[jagular7]

When people point out there is no traction on an unseated axle, then ask them to pick it up.

Since the axle is articulating, one side is forced up, other side is forced down. Gravity has some effect, but not as much compared to that of the torque arm.

Biggest thing, at full compression, you are not compressing to the top of the shock body hits mount. At full extension, you are not hanging by the brake line (even when turned where caliper is away from frame) and the coil hasn't dislodged itself.  Do note, even if coil comes completely off the upper mount/stub, if you wheel in debri, the debri may push the coil in such a way where it won't align back into position. That's the time you want to limit the down travel to keep coil in alignment.