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Offline sharpxmen

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Re: Limited Slip Diff?? Will it Help? 91 YJ
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2013, 07:13:42 PM »
you can also go a few clicks on the e-brake and will give you a bit of better distribution of power to the rear wheels if one spins freely - the trick is to engage it enough so it creates some friction on the one that's suspended or in the mud but not too much to make you slip the clutch excessively. trial and error until you get it right i guess, will help but won't replace a locker, use it only when needed to pass a certain obstacle of course.
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Re: Limited Slip Diff?? Will it Help? 91 YJ
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2013, 07:48:00 PM »
Yes, they are connected at the same time.  When you step on the throttle you can see the cable on the hand throttle stick up.
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Re: Limited Slip Diff?? Will it Help? 91 YJ
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2013, 04:21:26 PM »
You can use the hand throttle in different ways; you can use it to increase the idle speed (just a few clicks and leave it there; that way, when you lift your foot of the gas, the TB plate will remain a bit open, so the Jeep will be harder to stall).  You can use it to increase engine RPM for using accessories (like when you are winching but are not inside the Jeep, or when running OBA, or just simply want to recharge the battery, but you dont want to sit there holding the gas pedal).  You can use it as a redneck cruise control (it will not maintain SPEED, but it WILL leave the throttle at a specific place, so if it is flat, you can maintain speed) to give your foot a rest on long trips (oh, and yes, it is not exactly the safest way to drive, but I have used it anyway when my cruise control was acting up and I was making 600 mile trips between Panama and Costa Rica).  You can also use it as a third foot, for those times when you need to have a foot on your brakes, have the clutch in, and still need to get gas to the engine to get going (like when taking off on a steep hill).  It's a very cheap add on that is really practical, in my opinion.  You can use a bike shifter control and make your own, or get one like the Rubicon Express one (I also run this one).

As for lockers, I think BountyHunter runs the spool with the cable disconnect; you can ask him for advice on this.  But for me, there is nothing like a selectable locker.  I run ARB, which are the most expensive, but they are literally invisible on the road, and make a HUGE difference offroad.  The downside is that besides the lockers, you need an air compressor.  Ox are simpler (in that they are cable operated instead of using air) and are about as bullet proof as the ARB.  Detroit Lockers are also bullet proof, but you WILL have to learn to drive with those on...  They tend to be felt when you increase or decrease the torque (press or depress the gas pedal), especially when cornering.

As for lunchbox lockers, some of them (most) use clutches, which eventually wear off.  Also, they are not "true" lockers; most of them are LSD, but that does not mean that they will not give you additional traction.  It's just that a true locker will give you more of it...  But they will also be more expensive.  It really depends on what you are looking for, and how much budget you have...

Now, removing the sway bars and track bars; they make a HUGE difference, especially if you run lifted springs.  I also have a YJ (94), and I run no track bar in the rear, a telescopic one on the front (which means I can free it up for wheeling, and then lock it up when I hit the road), and sway bar discos, and they make a HUGE difference in traction when wheeling.  I recommend you get some sway bar disconnects; they are also fairly cheap, and make a big difference (and you mentioned you already tossed you track bars).
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Re: Limited Slip Diff?? Will it Help? 91 YJ
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2013, 05:54:20 PM »
We're getting a little off my original topic, but this is all good info for me. So I'd like to get the disconnects installed this coming weekend. Questions is, what do you do with your sway bar when it is disconnected? Wire it up some how?

I've also seen several different ones. One pin in the center, JKS. Two pins and a section comes out of the center, Rough Country, and then one where the whole disconnect comes off, JKS. I imagine the manufacture of the one you pick comes down to which comes off easiest.  Any preferences? And Why?

Again, Thanks for all the input on everything.

cb

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Re: Limited Slip Diff?? Will it Help? 91 YJ
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2013, 07:18:40 PM »
Questions is, what do you do with your sway bar when it is disconnected? Wire it up some how?

I ussually just tie it up to the frame when wheeling.

I've also seen several different ones. One pin in the center, JKS. Two pins and a section comes out of the center, Rough Country, and then one where the whole disconnect comes off, JKS. I imagine the manufacture of the one you pick comes down to which comes off easiest.  Any preferences? And Why?

Any of them will do the job.  I have rubicon express 2 pin ones, and they work just fine, but are a bit of a hazzle to get back in place.  I have heard good things about the JKS 1 pin ones, but have never seen them myself.
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Re: Limited Slip Diff?? Will it Help? 91 YJ
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2013, 07:36:25 PM »
Lunchbox lockers are real lockers, they don't use clutches and they lock 100% when on the throttle.  You can flat-tow with lunchbox lockers in both axles and you won't notice them as they'll be unlocked with no throttle input to them.

I flat-tow with spools in both axles without issue. 

If its a limited slip you want, look at the Detroit Trutrac, no clutches to wear out.  Much better than an open diff.

I wouldn't concern yourself with using the ebrake or a hand throttle while wheeling.  Just back your foot off the gas pedal until only your toes are touching, that will get rid of most of the bounce you're experiencing.

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Re: Limited Slip Diff?? Will it Help? 91 YJ
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2013, 09:00:23 PM »
There has been a lot of good information given here and I'm taking it all  in.  I do have to budget/plan my purchases so I'm starting by installing the disconnects on the sway bar. Along with installing longer brake lines from NAPA. I found some threads which recommended an additional 4" length.  Also picking up an air compressor so I can drop the air pressure in the tires.  Hope to get this completed this coming weekend and then back out to Parker, AZ. and the trails to check out how the upgrades work.  Also this is the last weekend that the Desert Bar is open!

thanks for all the suggestions.

cb



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Re: Limited Slip Diff?? Will it Help? 91 YJ
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2013, 12:53:48 PM »
There has been a lot of good information given here and I'm taking it all  in.  I do have to budget/plan my purchases so I'm starting by installing the disconnects on the sway bar. Along with installing longer brake lines from NAPA. I found some threads which recommended an additional 4" length.  Also picking up an air compressor so I can drop the air pressure in the tires.  Hope to get this completed this coming weekend and then back out to Parker, AZ. and the trails to check out how the upgrades work.  Also this is the last weekend that the Desert Bar is open!

thanks for all the suggestions.

cb



If your stock lines are OK, you can relocate them under the frame and gain 6" or so.
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Re: Limited Slip Diff?? Will it Help? 91 YJ
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2013, 06:29:39 PM »
If your stock lines are OK, you can relocate them under the frame and gain 6" or so.

They need to be replaced. When I put on my  lift I started to relocate them and realized I needed to replace them.


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cb

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Re: Limited Slip Diff?? Will it Help? 91 YJ
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2013, 07:16:51 PM »
I'm going to end the up-dates on this thread because it is no longer related to the limited slip diff topic. I do have some updates on how the sway bar disconnect worked out along with reduced tire pressure. I'll start a new thread.

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