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jvs

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rear seems to be stuck
« on: October 03, 2006, 08:26:21 AM »
I came back from 4 wheelin on Saturday, cleaned up the jeep and then put it away. On Sunday morning I started to push it out of the garage as I normally do but it wouldn't budge. I made sure the sticks were in neutral but still couldn't move it. After jacking it up I was able to determine that the rear wheels wouldn't move, even with the tranny out of gear.
I took the cover off the rear last night but everything looks okay. Any ideas what I should do now?

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Offline Bounty Hunter

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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2006, 09:09:38 AM »
Put it in 1st and break it loose.
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2006, 09:31:27 AM »
Maybe it's the brakes.  I helped get a rear brake unstuck one time, it can happen.
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2006, 10:18:45 AM »
I tried breaking it loose but it just wanted to stall. I can try it again.

As far as the breaks are concerned, the wheel does move a bit, perhaps an inch forward and back. If I step on the break pedal the wheels don't move at all. I figured that kind of eliminated the brakes as the problem.

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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2006, 12:54:17 PM »
Open up the diff and look.  It's easy to do and will probably save you unecessary damage.  Inpect the R&P as well as the side and spyder gears in the carrier.
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2006, 01:00:46 PM »
Yes, I opened it up and everything looks fine but I must be missing something, somewhere. I really stumped on what to do now.

What did you mean by R&P?

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Re: rear seems to be stuck
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2006, 01:41:46 PM »
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Yes, I opened it up and everything looks fine but I must be missing something, somewhere. I really stumped on what to do now.

What did you mean by R&P?

jvs


Ring and pinion.  Can you turn the tires by hand?  Disconenct the driveshaft at the pinion yoke and try to turn the tires again.  You want to make sure it's not something else and this will localize the rear axle.  If things start moving then it's something in the drivetrain.
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2006, 02:16:08 PM »
Thanks, I'll try that tonight.

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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2006, 09:18:57 PM »
How far into the diff case have you looked??  Can you see or feel all the way around the front of the carrier (where you can't see)?  Can you feel back there?  Could possibly be the cross shaft slid out and is locking things up. There's a cross shaft retaining pin that may have broke causing the cross shaft to slide.

Jack it up in the air and try to spin a tire.  Eliminate things like the axles, the gears (Ring gear or pinion).  Internally there are spider gears and side gears...

Yup seized calipers (or a rock in the drum could also be a cause.
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2006, 10:29:34 AM »
Okay, it turned out not to be the rear. I disconnected the rear driveshaft and was then able to move the jeep. I should have done that before I drained the rear. I'll spend the next few nights getting the garage back in order and then remove the transfer case on Saturday.

I'm still not sure what it could be but I think it's likely I'll find it there. I was never happy with the way the 4wd to 2wd stick felt, so that's a possiblity I suppose. The high to low is smooth.

There was also a god awful noise under the jeep when I came out of the woods a week ago but that disappeared as quickly and mysteriously as it came. This problem might be a blessing in disguise.

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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2006, 11:25:59 AM »
So the enst thing would be to look at the transmission and transfer case.  If the Jeep runs you might try to out the transfer case in neutral and the transmission in gear and see if it dies or runs.  This will hopefully tell you if it's the transfer case or not.

Although you might want to shift the transfer case into each gear to see if it shifts ok.  It might need adjusting at the shifter linkage.  What kind of Jeep is this anyway?
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2006, 12:50:22 PM »
It's a 64 CJ5 that my dad found in a junkyard and started to restore. It runs but I'm having a problem with the idle. Sometimes it's fine, and then the next time it won't stay running. He put a new Solex carb on it.

However, the main thing right now is this problem. I tried neutral but it still wouldn't move. I will attempt it again before I remove the transfer case.

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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2006, 02:17:34 PM »
So does it have a D20 or a D300?  The way to tell is if the rear axle center diff is offset or not.
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2006, 03:27:03 PM »
18 transfer case and a 44 rear.

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