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Offline Jeffy

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Re: Small block questions.
« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2011, 02:11:41 PM »
how's that working? the bellhousing is the same (vertical on both engine and transmission end) - are the belhousing bolts offset on the AX15?
I believe so.
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Re: Small block questions.
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2011, 09:10:53 AM »
how's that working? the bellhousing is the same (vertical on both engine and transmission end) - are the belhousing bolts offset on the AX15?

Mine didn't clock anything that I could tell, everything seems straight.

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Re: Small block questions.
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2011, 09:35:11 AM »
Mine didn't clock anything that I could tell, everything seems straight.



Can you elaborate? You have an ax15 out of a dodge in your jeep?
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Re: Small block questions.
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2011, 02:33:49 PM »
My mistake, the transmission isn't clocked the transfer case is, 6-7*.
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Re: Small block questions.
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2011, 05:13:50 PM »
My mistake, the transmission isn't clocked the transfer case is, 6-7*.

yeah, i thought so that's why i said the output end but that's all from what i heard, never seen one myself. I wonder if it would be a better fit for a D300 swap (if it's clocked the right way and not actually increasing the droop).
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Re: Small block questions.
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2011, 05:19:37 PM »
yeah, i thought so that's why i said the output end but that's all from what i heard, never seen one myself. I wonder if it would be a better fit for a D300 swap (if it's clocked the right way and not actually increasing the droop).
I've heard of people drilling out the flange to a standard 0* clock.  (It's clocked to add drop.)
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Re: Small block questions.
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2011, 05:41:42 PM »
I've heard of people drilling out the flange to a standard 0* clock.  (It's clocked to add drop.)

so that would make it even worse for a D300.
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Re: Small block questions.
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2011, 10:01:49 AM »
One thing to note is the 4cyl Dakota transmission is a 2wd ax-15, the 4cyl Dakotas didn't come in 4x4, and the v-6 and v-8 Dakotas used the NV3500 with the non-removable bellhousing, the trans output might be clocked a little more than a Jeep trans, I never compared them, but unless your swapping in a V motor it really wont matter.  (note all the above info is for standard trans vehicles, I make no comments on autos as I haven't pulled any yet)

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« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2011, 10:10:45 AM »
One thing to note is the 4cyl Dakota transmission is a 2wd ax-15, the 4cyl Dakotas didn't come in 4x4, and the v-6 and v-8 Dakotas used the NV3500 with the non-removable bellhousing, the trans output might be clocked a little more than a Jeep trans, I never compared them, but unless your swapping in a V motor it really wont matter.  (note all the above info is for standard trans vehicles, I make no comments on autos as I haven't pulled any yet)


So that pretty much rules out using an ax15 from a Dakota, for me.
Thanks for the info.
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Re: Small block questions.
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2011, 12:03:19 PM »
My newest question, ofcourse it all turned out to be 21spline  :brick: so can I get a 23 spline input gear and throw it in this 231, while it awaits an ax15?
Yes, you can. I have many 23spl input shafts if you need one.  Need to know the length of the input shaft needed.

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Re: Small block questions.
« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2011, 09:49:07 PM »
Thanks bounty. Your always there for me. lol 

I will keep you in mind.

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Re: Small block questions.
« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2011, 08:16:17 PM »
The dakota bell has the 2.8 V6 chev pattern not rebop doesn't it?

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Re: Small block questions.
« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2011, 08:28:31 PM »
The dakota bell has the 2.8 V6 chev pattern not rebop doesn't it?

Dave

yes it's the 2.8 chev which is the same as the 2.5L Jeep/Chrysler and that's b/c it used the 151cuin GM engine in Jeeps (so they decided to keep the pattern probably to make for an easy transition on the assembly line)

what's rebop?
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Re: Small block questions.
« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2011, 10:18:00 PM »
OOps my bad, we used to refer to Chevy vs BOP (Buick,Olsmobile,Pontiac) bell housing patterns, rebop was the dual drilled versions stood for repower-BOP..

I did not think the SBC would bolt up to the 4cyl bell housing. Tha'ts why I was asking. In the Monza's and Vega you had to swap a bell housing to fit a SBC in it...

One nice thing about a 305 vs the 350 is that he 305 crank usually spins way smoother than the 350 at higher RPM's unless you buy a fancier than stock one.

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