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Re: Second guessing the fan controller...
« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2012, 06:11:00 PM »
I got a bug up my butt and did some more work.  I used the small harness off of the high-pressure switch since I had spliced extra length into it.  I hard soldered the diode harness to this so there are no extra connectors.  You can see the cable passes right by the switch so it was an easy decision.  So the fan turns on only when the clutch fan or the thermostat is on.  I need to add loom on there to cover up all the exposed cable and make it look factory.  I keep it open since I'm always doing something with the wiring there.

Oh and it only cost me $3 for the two diodes.  So I saved $183.   :fya:  :fap:


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Re: Second guessing the fan controller...
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2012, 08:37:11 PM »
so the output from the pressure switch goes to the clutch and that's where you spliced in? that's nice and close to the relay/diodes so it makes it shorter and cleaner.

you should use the same one for the PCM a/c clutch sense to increase the idle.
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Re: Second guessing the fan controller...
« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2012, 09:31:36 PM »
so the output from the pressure switch goes to the clutch and that's where you spliced in? that's nice and close to the relay/diodes so it makes it shorter and cleaner.

you should use the same one for the PCM a/c clutch sense to increase the idle.
Yup, I put the splice after the pressure switch and before the clutch.  That's where one of the splices I had made before to extend the pressure switch wires to the compressor.  (so there are 4 splices)

I'm thinking I'll solder another wire to the pressure switch harness as well but from a different splice then the one I made.  The splice higher up is a lot closer to the PDC.  Then I'd put a spade terminal on it and plug it into the socket for the A/C Relay.  I think that will work.  Just need to figure out which pin it is.
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Re: Second guessing the fan controller...
« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2012, 02:54:46 PM »
Looks like a pro job!
Thanks!  I have a lot of electronic stuff since I was heavily into it in years past.  Might as well do it right the first time.

I still have to see about wiring the blower switch to the A/C Request.  I think getting the A/C Select will be easy now that I know I can get to it at the PDC.  Need to find time to get it done though.  Also, need to figure out what size terminals are used for the blower switch.  It's blue so that should tell me it's size of the wire, 14-16AWG but not the size of the quick connect seems larger then 1/4".  Can't find the exact size.
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Re: Second guessing the fan controller...
« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2012, 09:38:17 PM »
Delphi. Napa carries most of them... The delphi spade connectors are just enough bigger to keep you from using the generic ones with thier stuff.. B**t**ds!  :brick:

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Re: Second guessing the fan controller...
« Reply #50 on: September 13, 2012, 11:33:13 PM »
Delphi. Napa carries most of them... The delphi spade connectors are just enough bigger to keep you from using the generic ones with thier stuff.. B**t**ds!  :brick:

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These are standard QD terminals.  Most are .25 aka: 6.35mm.  I think I know what size it is now.  I think it's .375".  That seems to be the most common upsize.
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Re: Second guessing the fan controller...
« Reply #51 on: September 14, 2012, 09:18:27 AM »
These are standard QD terminals.  Most are .25 aka: 6.35mm.  I think I know what size it is now.  I think it's .375".  That seems to be the most common upsize.

that seems a bit large (3/8)
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Re: Second guessing the fan controller...
« Reply #52 on: September 14, 2012, 09:21:17 AM »
that seems a bit large (3/8)

well the guy at JeepAir said they're standard connectors so they might be 6.35mm.  I'm going to check with a non-insulated terminal.
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Re: Second guessing the fan controller...
« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2012, 12:39:18 AM »
Was looking at the DCC site.  Just bought a Mark VIII fan myself and was looking for a fan relay kit.   

I didn't think the Mark VIII fan cycling on/off would be that big a deal and was looking at a Hayden kit or one of these Hollister kits featured in Carcraft  http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/ccrp_1111_electric_radiator_fans/ .  But, take it the Mark VIII cycling gets pretty annoying so some kind of variable speed controller smooths things out?  Any help appreciated.
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Re: Second guessing the fan controller...
« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2012, 10:01:29 AM »
If you have an upgraded alternator you'll barely notice the fan turning on.  There is a very slight stumble as it kicks in.  If you're not paying attention you might not notice it.

As for the controller it depends on what you want it to do and how much you want to pay.  Most of us don't care about the hi-speed so we don't use that circuit.  The lo-speed circuit doesn't draw as much power and can be run on a 40a relay.  Although I'd probably get 60-80a relay if you can find one cheap.  I've seen some for under $10.  The 40a's are more like $5.  It really doesn't matter that much though.  I also highly recommend you using a circuit breaker (CB) instead of a standard blade fuse.  You can get a 40a CB with 10-32 Threaded Studs for $4.  Then all you need is a thermo switch.  The Hayden 3653 Economy Adjustable Thermostatic Fan Control is around $16.

There's also the Hayden 3647 and the 3651 Adjustable Thermostatic Fan Control but I'm not sure of the quality.  I had issues with my fuse holder melting because of the amp draw on a few occasions so I'm a bit skeptical that it won't still happen.  There's no mention of the relay spec.  I'm gonna guess it's the common 30a which is probably a little low even for the lo-speed.  You'd then have to upgrade it to a 40a, in which case you'd be better off making your own harness/controller.  I run 16awg for the dash switch and thermo and 14 awg for the power and fan.  If you want to be color coordinated you'll need two spools of each.  Otherwise you could just get one of each.
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Re: Second guessing the fan controller...
« Reply #55 on: October 01, 2012, 10:18:52 AM »
relay is 40Amp, fuse is 30, it's fine for the low speed.
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