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Offline Hunter02

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'3rd' brake light ??
« on: September 09, 2012, 07:09:41 PM »
People, I have a '98 TJ with a cracked 3RD Brake light lens. The trained monkey at the local Mopar says, 'That will be $191.81' I said WTF? He says 'That will be $191.81. You have to buy the whole unit. You can't get just the lens'. Tried the local junkyards and every TJ was missing the whole brake light pavillion.
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Thanks.  Jim

Offline Jeffy

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Re: '3rd' brake light ??
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2012, 07:34:44 PM »
Throw it in the trash?  You're only required to have 2 working brake lights.
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Re: '3rd' brake light ??
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2012, 08:12:49 PM »
mine went where Jeffy said when i got the bigger tires, i was too lazy to add a riser.
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Re: '3rd' brake light ??
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2012, 10:11:46 PM »
Same here, long gone.
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Offline grumpygy

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Re: '3rd' brake light ??
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2012, 10:15:17 PM »
Try to buy the door contacts, think they cost just as Much.  I got pulled over a few times cause the light was not working.  So Pulled it and have not been pulled over since.
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Re: '3rd' brake light ??
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2012, 12:29:05 PM »
Gotta be a ton of used lights out there, most Jeepers pull them.

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Re: '3rd' brake light ??
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2012, 12:34:32 PM »
Check ebay.
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Offline dwtaylorpdx

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Re: '3rd' brake light ??
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2012, 09:57:47 PM »
I've been pulled over for not having it and in Oregon it is required I found after researching it...
Its in my garage right now though... :)

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Offline Jeffy

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Re: '3rd' brake light ??
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2012, 10:30:48 PM »
I've been pulled over for not having it and in Oregon it is required I found after researching it...
Its in my garage right now though... :)

Cheers
Dave

Sounds sketchy at best. DOT supposedly adopted it back in 1986 but not all cars had it till '96/'97. The Jeep Wrangler only started using them in 1994.  If that's the only reason he pulled you over, he got lucky.
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Offline dwtaylorpdx

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Re: '3rd' brake light ??
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2012, 10:52:43 PM »
Not complicated, he ran my plate driving behind me then pulled me over,
I'm guessing  he was one of the cops who would get you for fender flares being too narrow as well...  ???

He did give me a fixit ticket to justify the time I suppose, just had to drive into a police station and show them it was back on... No points no $$>

I suspect my Spintech got his attention when I left the light... LOL


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Re: '3rd' brake light ??
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2012, 10:59:53 PM »
Not complicated, he ran my plate driving behind me then pulled me over,
I'm guessing  he was one of the cops who would get you for fender flares being too narrow as well...  ???

He did give me a fixit ticket to justify the time I suppose, just had to drive into a police station and show them it was back on... No points no $$>

I suspect my Spintech got his attention when I left the light... LOL


Dave


He got lucky in the fact that your Jeep is a '94.  I bet 99% of people wouldn't know that Jeeps didn't have them till '94.  If your Jeep was a pre-94 he would have still written you a ticket but you could have gotten it thrown out.

These days, even Fit-it tickets cost money.
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Offline aka-justin

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Re: '3rd' brake light ??
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2012, 12:16:21 AM »
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Re: '3rd' brake light ??
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2012, 03:59:46 AM »
I think it is required in MI as well.  Something in the code about 2 lights required, but third as well if it originally came with vehicle. 
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Offline grumpygy

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Re: '3rd' brake light ??
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2012, 08:14:14 AM »
I've been pulled over for not having it and in Oregon it is required I found after researching it...
Its in my garage right now though... :)

Cheers
Dave


  Never been pulled over for not having mine in Oregon.
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Re: '3rd' brake light ??
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2012, 08:37:59 AM »
apparently not needed

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in the state of oregon:

816.100 Brake lights. Each of the following is a requirement for brake lights as described:

(1) Brake lights shall be placed on the rear of the vehicle. Where more than one brake light is required under ORS 816.320 and 816.330 at least one brake light shall be placed on each side of the rear.

(2) Brake lights shall be constructed and located on a vehicle so as to give a signal of intention to stop.

(3) Brake lights shall emit a red light. If the motor vehicle was manufactured before 1959 and the brake light is combined with the taillight in a taillight assembly, the assembly may contain an insert as described under ORS 816.080.

(4) Except as provided in subsection (11) of this section, brake lights shall emit a steady burning light.

(5) Brake lights shall emit a light that is plainly visible and capable of being seen and distinguished from a distance of 500 feet to the rear of the vehicle in normal daylight.

(6) Brake lights required under ORS 816.320 and 816.330 shall be mounted, so far as practicable, in such a manner as to reduce the hazard of being obscured by mud or dust thrown by the wheels.

(7) Brake lights shall not project a glaring or dazzling light.

( 8 ) Brake lights may be incorporated with a taillight.

(9) Brake lights shall be activated upon application of the service brake.

(10) Brake lights required under ORS 816.320 and 816.330 or any parts for brake lights must comply with standards adopted by the Department of Transportation under ORS 816.010.

(11) Brake lights for motorcycles may flash intermittently, provided that the brake lights do not override the rear turn signal function. [1983 c.338 §458 (7); 1985 c.16 §240 (7); 1985 c.69 §1 (7); 1985 c.71 §4 (7); 1985 c.393 §13 (7); 1985 c.420 §6 (7); 1997 c.492 §2; 2003 c.158 §24]

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