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Offline neale_rs

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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2013, 03:25:28 PM »
Get rid of that bumper will probably shorten the front approach 4-5" then you'd gain more by not having the bumper 2-3" below the frame.

The bumper does hit once in a while but it's not too bad now that it has been chopped:

Before the cutting, it did hinder approaches pretty often, hitting on the outer tips of the lower tubes.

Now it mostly it gets hit on the underside of the leaf springs.  An SOA would allow bigger rocks to slip under there, allowing the tire to contact the rock first.  But the downside is that the rock could also hit the tie rod first if left in the stock position.
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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2013, 03:58:38 PM »
Do a U bolt flip and it saves some room under the springs.
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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2013, 04:33:09 PM »
Do a U bolt flip and it saves some room under the springs.

It is on my list.  As on your YJ, it will also make a good base for some properly set up bumpstops.  :pot:
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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2013, 07:04:05 PM »
Does it look like there could be any contact between an over the knuckle TRE and the wheel?





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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2013, 07:38:16 PM »
What backspace are your wheels? IIRC mine were in the less than 4 inch. Something like 3 and 5/8 or 3 and 1/4. I forgot by now.

Just looked it up. They were 3.75 backspace. I had no issues with the TRE rubbing the rim.
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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2013, 07:43:26 PM »
What backspace are your wheels? IIRC mine were in the less than 4 inch. Something like 3 and 5/8 or 3 and 1/4. I forgot by now.


Will have to measure.  These wheels were on the YJ when I bought it, don't even know the width!
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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2013, 10:26:25 AM »
Looks like 3.75".  That's the most common size.
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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2013, 10:45:36 AM »
 I contacted JCR Offroad who sell a OTK kit.  They said it should work with wheels with less than 4.75".  That is a lot so I guess it means non-stock wheels.  JCR has a complete kit for a reasonable price so I´ll probably just go ahead with that.

Thanks for all the ideas and comments.
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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2013, 11:37:33 PM »

Getting the winch to pull down and to the front:



Got it pretty straight from the front view and almost straight from the top view.  I'll be carrying the old tie rod as a spare until this one gets replaced with a better one.
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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2013, 02:23:14 PM »
Why not swap in the old tie-rod and use the bowed one as a spare?
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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2013, 04:10:59 PM »
It might be better as far as chance of bending is concerned but it is worn out, the tie rod ends make popping sounds when parking and it adds some play to the steering.
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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2013, 06:33:42 PM »
Do a U bolt flip and it saves some room under the springs.

The rear ones are fairly simple, but for the front, if you plan on keeping the sway bars, you will have to do some fabbing...  There is no pin for the sway bar to connect to (at least there wasn't on mine).  I installed my rear ones, but I have yet to do the front as a result of this.
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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2013, 08:27:30 PM »
The sway bar has been disconnected for some time now, don't miss it.  A u-bolt flip would be a great mod.
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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2013, 08:46:24 PM »
The sway bar has been disconnected for some time now, don't miss it.  A u-bolt flip would be a great mod.

I kept mine because it is still a daily driver, and I also used to drive it 600 miles between Costa Rica and Panama..  But that is no longer happening.
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Re: Bent tie rod
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2013, 09:31:03 PM »
Maybe this is a rude question, but are you doing all this work in your kitchen? I've never seen a tiled garage before.