Topic: Starter died today

[grumpygy]

Dang just figured mine out She turns 30 next year.  Now all the extra little work I have to do makes sense.

[Jeffy]

Dang just figured mine out She turns 30 next year.  Now all the extra little work I have to do makes sense.

You mean 20, otherwise your YJ would have been built in 1984.

[chardrc]

Sell it?  What's that?

A good way to spend a bunch of money buying a new jeep and upgrading it to outperform your old jeep ... either way you just have to empty every pocket.

[grumpygy]

You mean 20, otherwise your YJ would have been built in 1984.

  Yep, I should not post late at night.

[Jeffy]

A good way to spend a bunch of money buying a new jeep and upgrading it to outperform your old jeep ... either way you just have to empty every pocket.

That would be the smart way to do it.  Just sell the Jeep and get a new Rubicon.  Throw a short lift on it, winch, etc and call it good.  It would be cheaper and not to mention faster in the long run.

[neale_rs]

That would be the smart way to do it.  Just sell the Jeep and get a new Rubicon.  Throw a short lift on it, winch, etc and call it good.  It would be cheaper and not to mention faster in the long run.

A JK Rubicon can be very capable with very few mods but people get carried away and it ends up expensive anyway.  First the cost the the JK, then a long arm lift, front axle beef up or replacement, charcoal canister relocation, muffler relocation, stronger skid plates, new drive shafts, bumpers, other armor, winch, etc.

[Jeffy]

A JK Rubicon can be very capable with very few mods but people get carried away and it ends up expensive anyway.  First the cost the the JK, then a long arm lift, front axle beef up or replacement, charcoal canister relocation, muffler relocation, stronger skid plates, new drive shafts, bumpers, other armor, winch, etc.

That's common for new guy's.  It happens with all new Jeeps.  Those of us who have been there done that are usually much more reserved and frankly realistic of their goals.

[jfrabat]

That's common for new guy's.  It happens with all new Jeeps.  Those of us who have been there done that are usually much more reserved and frankly realistic of their goals.

I KNW Art and Sharp were new guys at Jeeping deep inside...  Adding all that long arm lift, triangulated suspension, armor, big tires, doublers, etc...   

[Jeffy]

I KNW Art and Sharp were new guys at Jeeping deep inside...  Adding all that long arm lift, triangulated suspension, armor, big tires, doublers, etc...   

Well we're talking newbies here.    They often don't really know what they want other then the 'look'.  That's why you get a lot of goofy builds out there.

Once you know what you want, it's a whole different matter.

[chardrc]

Stock Rubicons are quite capable. But after one trip to Moab and stacking rocks and heavily using the skid plates to keep up with the other jeeps in the group a bit of an upgrade was needed. There sure are a lot of mall crawling jks with lifts and tires around though. you could do most anything with a 2 inch lift and 33s if you drive correctly (in a 2 door at least, 4 door may need some more for the brakeover angle).

if you started from a stock jeep to sell to get a Rubicon it would be definitely less expensive. As long as you plan to keep with the stock axles. I was about to the point with my yj where I wanted to bump up a tires size flatten the belly pan and get a briefer rear axle when I traded it in on the Rubicon. New jeep fixed all that, the frame and body rust, wore out engine, and the annoying internal clutch slave cylinder issues so all in all a win win. 

I don't see why people do muffler relocation its up and out of the way more than the gas tank on a yj or tj. You would rip off the rear bumper before hitting the muffler in my experience. Next I need a front bumper to get a winch and the rear bumper for a tire carrier to support the 35x12.5" spare. Both bumpers have picked fights with rocks and are battle scared anyways. 

[Jnbarnes8985]

i know this is a little late on this subject, but i just went through this on the weekend.  The 4.0 starter brushes are the same ones for the 2.5 i found them both on amazon and advance auto parts i think the maker is omix or something like that. There is two parts you have to buy the brush holder which has two brushes on it, and then the two brushes that bolt onto the holder making it 4 brushes.  What i ended up doing was getting a 4.0 starter from the junk yard b/c they didnt have any 2.5 and i just swapped the whole back half b/c it had just be replaced on that eng its only .75 inches longer. Im not sure of the correct names of the parts but its the black housing and back bolted right up to the front half of my stock starter. Just some FYI

[sharpxmen]

i know this is a little late on this subject, but i just went through this on the weekend.  The 4.0 starter brushes are the same ones for the 2.5 i found them both on amazon and advance auto parts i think the maker is omix or something like that. There is two parts you have to buy the brush holder which has two brushes on it, and then the two brushes that bolt onto the holder making it 4 brushes.  What i ended up doing was getting a 4.0 starter from the junk yard b/c they didnt have any 2.5 and i just swapped the whole back half b/c it had just be replaced on that eng its only .75 inches longer. Im not sure of the correct names of the parts but its the black housing and back bolted right up to the front half of my stock starter. Just some FYI

that's a good tip, thanks for letting us know - i did find the new parts for 4.0L but couldn't for 2.5L, ended up scavenging the parts from a busted 2.5L starter and bought a new starter after that for $80 (wasn't that bad given that it included the solenoid and it was not a reman but brand new). If i knew the brushes are the same i would have probably gone with that instead. I might rebuild the old one with new brushes as a spare, with all the new parts made in China you never know when it gives out on you.