Topic: 1995 Dual Diaphram Booster Mount Length

[Jeffy]

Just going back and refreshing my memory on the single to dual diaphragm swap.  Is the mount the same length between them?

I can't tell from the picture;

[sharpxmen]

what you're interested in is the length of the rod sticking out from the mounting face to the tub, should be the same (still have my dual diaphragm booster in the garage, didn't get a chance to put it on yet so i can't tell you for sure if the mount itself is the same but as long as you get the one that comes with the booster should should bolt right in).

[Jeffy]

what you're interested in is the length of the rod sticking out from the mounting face to the tub, should be the same (still have my dual diaphragm booster in the garage, didn't get a chance to put it on yet so i can't tell you for sure if the mount itself is the same but as long as you get the one that comes with the booster should should bolt right in).

Well that's the problem.  If I get a new/reman. it won't come with the bracket.  I've heard '95's had both boosters though.  Which is what I'm wondering if they are the same size.  One is stamped while the other is welded though.

Might be better to get one of these?  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321197468915

[neale_rs]

Well that's the problem.  If I get a new/reman. it won't come with the bracket.  I've heard '95's had both boosters though.  Which is what I'm wondering if they are the same size.  One is stamped while the other is welded though.

Might be better to get one of these?  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321197468915

That's not a bad price and it saves time not having to find the bracket.

[sharpxmen]

Well that's the problem.  If I get a new/reman. it won't come with the bracket.  I've heard '95's had both boosters though.  Which is what I'm wondering if they are the same size.  One is stamped while the other is welded though.

Might be better to get one of these?  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321197468915

i have a '95 and came with the regular vac booster, got the dual off a '95 at the j/y

the brake lines at the M/C are different (the thread) so you'll need those as well.

[sharpxmen]

one thing you could do, measure the distance between bolts on the booster side on the one you have and compare with the double diaph one, the length of the bracket looks the same from the picture but you could also measure the length of it and substract from the length of the rod sticking out - compare that to what you have at the brake pedal.
Just thinking if you already have it not to spend the $200 on the ebay one just for the missing bracket (it also looks smaller than the stock double one - says 8'', dunno what the stock one diameter is but worth checking).

[sharpxmen]

I just clued in that you don't have it yet - you also need the M/C as the old one won't work on the dual, so that deal on ebay looks good - check the diameter on yours though as that one looks smaller but could be just the picture.

[jfrabat]

I think they were different; but dont remember 100%.  I did that swap some 5 years ago, and then went to hydroboost, and my memory is not as good as it used to be!

[Jeffy]

A '95 MC and Booster is around $150 new/reman.  I think $10 each for thread adapters.  That's not too bad.  Still not sure what I'll do but better brakes are in the cards.  I don't think I need hydro boost.  The Jeep brakes pretty well right now.  Just want a bit more bite.  I also might consider doing a Teraflex Disc conversion since they still make a kit that fits the XJ44 and it's reasonably cheap as well.

[FourbangerYJ]

A '95 MC and Booster is around $150 new/reman.  I think $10 each for thread adapters.  That's not too bad.  Still not sure what I'll do but better brakes are in the cards.  I don't think I need hydro boost.  The Jeep brakes pretty well right now.  Just want a bit more bite.  I also might consider doing a Teraflex Disc conversion since they still make a kit that fits the XJ44 and it's reasonably cheap as well.

Does it have a E-brake with the kit?

[Jeffy]

Does it have a E-brake with the kit?

Yes, which is why it's a pretty good deal.

[VA_YJ]

You can use rear disc brakes off a '96 and up Explorer (solid axle).  Teraflex sells the spacers by themselves.  It's supposed to be fairly easy to do - just grind the openings slightly larger to fit over the D44.  This is a pretty common mod for the XJ guys with 44 rears.

[jfrabat]

You can use the rear discs of a mid 90's ZJ; they work on both the D35 and D44 (with some adjustment)

[Jeffy]

The reason for not going salvage is comes down to this.  I don't want to deal with rust, fabricating and hunting for little parts nor replacing said parts with new ones because they are too far gone.  Having both 5 on 4.5 and 5 on 5.5 bolt patterns is also a big plus.  It's still not at the top of the list though.  I'd probably replace the master and booster first.

According to this guy he's using the stamped bracket for his Dual diaphram on it.  http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/95-dual-diaphram-booster-master-cylinder-upgrade-1287758/

Though if I can get enough bite without going to the floor, I might not bother with discs.  The complaints with drums are a bit moot since I can take them apart faster then discs.

[neale_rs]

Though if I can get enough bite without going to the floor, I might not bother with discs. 

Compared to GPW brakes, modern brakes are quite powerful.  It is just that we have gotten used to braking by just moving the ankle instead of using the whole leg!