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Offline Jeffy

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Random tip of the day...
« on: September 26, 2013, 05:01:10 PM »
When setting the e-brake make sure it's not set too hard...  Because when you try to leave the next day, you may find the shoe stuck to the drum and are unable to move.   :brick:
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Re: Random tip of the day...
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2013, 10:15:34 AM »
When setting the e-brake make sure it's not set too hard...  Because when you try to leave the next day, you may find the shoe stuck to the drum and are unable to move.   :brick:

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Re: Random tip of the day...
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2013, 12:35:56 PM »
Got into the Jeep and it wouldn't move.  The axle wasn't moving at all.  The driver side was locked and even in 4wd Hi, it wouldn't budge.  I could feel the suspension load up and didn't want to push it till something broke.  So I borrowed a car.

Jacked the Jeep up the next day and couldn't get the drum off.  Opened the bleeder valve and only got the usual dribble.  Used a deadblow hammer to knock the drum off and everything looked ok.  The drum showed the holes in the shoe so it was on pretty tight.

Here's my guess o what happened;  the drum was hot from driving.  I applied the e-brake firmly as I usually do.  Ad the drum cooled it contracted and basically press-fitted itself to the shoe.  Releasing the brake did nothing as the two were now stuck together.
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Re: Random tip of the day...
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2013, 04:27:55 PM »
If you set and release the brakes several times they will finally  fully release.  I live on a hill and have set mine to tight a few times.
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Re: Random tip of the day...
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2013, 04:33:21 PM »
If you set and release the brakes several times they will finally  fully release.  I live on a hill and have set mine to tight a few times.
It wouldn't.  Put it in 4WD and no go.  Like I said, it had to be pounded off.
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Re: Random tip of the day...
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2013, 05:00:04 PM »
It wouldn't.  Put it in 4WD and no go.  Like I said, it had to be pounded off.

Pounded off - you couldn't just back off the star wheels?
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Re: Random tip of the day...
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2013, 06:54:40 PM »
Pounded off - you couldn't just back off the star wheels?
It took a few smacks of the deadblow.  It wasn't because the brakes were on or adjusted too tight it was because the shoe was stuck to the drum and wouldn't release.  Once it released, I put the drum back on and it worked as it normally should.
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Re: Random tip of the day...
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2013, 09:48:01 PM »
You are lucky several years ago I bought a 57 VW Bug.  Guy was bragging that they found a way to stop the brakes from freezing to the drum when applied for any length of time.  It was not till I blew right through a stop sign and got lucky I was not hit cause it was a 4 lane Highway I blew across.   Turned right around and drove home. Got in the jeep and went to work.

  A few weeks later I put the VW up in the Garage  on Jack stands and started working on it.  When I pulled the drums they had used ant seize on the pads to keep them from sticking to the drums.

  Have not gotten around to putting it back on the road afraid of what else I might find wrong.  This work was done at a local VW shop.  I had the receipt for the work.
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Re: Random tip of the day...
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2013, 11:29:31 AM »
The same thing happened to me once. Driving in the rain. I came home and parked it in the garage. Set the E-brake. Then next time I went to use it ( weeks later) the pads rusted to the drum.  :lol:
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Re: Random tip of the day...
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2013, 05:09:11 PM »
Used to have to park my Audi outdoors at the airport....came back from a trip late one night after some freezing rain.  E-brake was frozen to the disc (rear passenger). Audi drove despite it sticking...got about a couple of miles away and stopped at a red light when the guy next to me was yelling out his window....drove through the light and pulled into a parking lot.  Disc was glowing bright red from the friction.

Pulled the e-brake on and off a few times until I felt it release and then drove home. Audi replaced the warped disc under warranty.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Random tip of the day...
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2013, 08:34:05 AM »
I parked my S10 Blazer after a long day on the road and set the Pbrake as usual. When I came out the next morning to continue my trip I found the truck covered in ice. As with your experiences the Pbrake would not release despite numerous settings and releasings until I tried backing up. Then it popped loose on the first try. I've used that technique several times since then, it has always worked. Next time it happens to you give it a try.

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Re: Random tip of the day...
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2013, 12:01:07 PM »
I parked my S10 Blazer after a long day on the road and set the Pbrake as usual. When I came out the next morning to continue my trip I found the truck covered in ice. As with your experiences the Pbrake would not release despite numerous settings and releasings until I tried backing up. Then it popped loose on the first try. I've used that technique several times since then, it has always worked. Next time it happens to you give it a try.

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I tried backing up then forward (in 2wd and 4WD) with no signs of releasing.  The suspension was loading up so I didn't want to try too hard.  The previous time it did this the popped loose after rolling forward though.
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Re: Random tip of the day...
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2013, 05:24:50 PM »
try to release the adjustment nut a few clicks next time it happens (on the bottom of the drum shield is a rubber plug). I'm also guessing that is not adjusted right now and that's maybe why it didn't release, you need to tighten it so it won't press at the ends and rather towards the halfway on the shoes.
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Re: Random tip of the day...
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2013, 07:28:53 PM »
try to release the adjustment nut a few clicks next time it happens (on the bottom of the drum shield is a rubber plug). I'm also guessing that is not adjusted right now and that's maybe why it didn't release, you need to tighten it so it won't press at the ends and rather towards the halfway on the shoes.
It's adjusted.  It just stuck to the drum.
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Re: Random tip of the day...
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2013, 11:25:25 AM »
I should mention...I had no idea the e-brake was actually stuck...just so you don't think I'm a COMPLETE idiot... :driving:
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