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Offline Jeffy

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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2006, 01:13:25 PM »
Well, if was me I'd buy a I6 YJ with the money saved from not buying a TJ.  Basically the drivetrain is identical to the TJ.  Parts are going to be cheaper on the YJ if you plan on building it up later.  The I6 will be a better daily driver engine if you do a lot of highway driving.  Now if all you're doing is driving around town then either engine will be fine nad newer would probably be better.

Airbags aren't really a big deal for me.  I've always driven cars amd truck that don't have them.  Same goes for ABS.  I hate the ABS on some cars and trucks.  Some are way too sensitive and send you rolling 5ft further then you wanted to which could be into somone's trunk.  I always have to use apex braking on some ABS units to trick them to work.
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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2006, 07:27:14 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2006, 04:08:48 PM »
While I too would like to buy a Jeep from the southern states (for rust purposes) it can get VERY costly with exchange (while definitly in our favour right now) and duties to get across the border etc.  Make sure you are well informed as to what costs there are to bring a vehicle across the border.

Cheers and good luck.

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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2006, 04:58:39 PM »
TJ>YJ

Round head lights and all,
you know the saying "Real Jeeps have round headlights"
Nuff said!
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Offline Jeffy

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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2006, 05:03:42 PM »
Quote from: "Liljeepz"
TJ>YJ

Round head lights and all,
you know the saying "Real Jeeps have round headlights"
Nuff said!
 :wall:


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« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2006, 05:49:19 PM »
Hey! I see no where in that saying where it specifies size of the roundness! :stick:

Round is round! :wink:

(we need a Thumbs up Emoticon)

<Edit> I just saw your new avatar Jeffy! Funny, but its no Jessica A.
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Offline Jeffy

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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2006, 06:44:22 PM »
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Hey! I see no where in that saying where it specifies size of the roundness! :stick:

Round is round! :wink:

(we need a Thumbs up Emoticon)

<Edit> I just saw your new avatar Jeffy! Funny, but its no Jessica A.


What I was trying to depict was the lack of turn signals on the grill.  Not to mention the TJ's grill is a lot shorter and looks out of proportion to the CJ.  With the YJ, you can still swap the front clip with a CJ fairly easily.  If you've got a 2.5L then you can even use a older CJ5 front clip for a really short hood.  Want to be even more different use a Jeepster hood.

With a TJ, you can add some turn signals to the grill which makes it look better but still squat.
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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2006, 08:02:24 PM »
Quote from: "Jeffy"
Quote from: "Liljeepz"
Hey! I see no where in that saying where it specifies size of the roundness! :stick:

Round is round! :wink:

(we need a Thumbs up Emoticon)

<Edit> I just saw your new avatar Jeffy! Funny, but its no Jessica A.


What I was trying to depict was the lack of turn signals on the grill.  Not to mention the TJ's grill is a lot shorter and looks out of proportion to the CJ.  With the YJ, you can still swap the front clip with a CJ fairly easily.  If you've got a 2.5L then you can even use a older CJ5 front clip for a really short hood.  Want to be even more different use a Jeepster hood.

With a TJ, you can add some turn signals to the grill which makes it look better but still squat.


Now your just getting Technical!
You know I have no defence against that! Ill keep it simple.
Buy a TJ for a Every day driver! That's just my opinion.
and they come with round headlights! :wall:  :roflol:
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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2006, 08:20:53 PM »
And TJs will always be the second Wrangler, never first.    :blbl:
But, I have too many round-head light friends to be an ass about the round vs square subject, so I am going to drop it.  

But, you ever notice that it was a U.S. company, Iacocca-led Chysler Jeep that instituted the square headlight YJ design.  It was Daimler, the German company that historically supplied vehicles to the whipped Nazi war machine, that decided to go back to round headlights for the Jeep.  

Iacocca, circa 1994, to letters from Wrangler owners not applauding the YJ look, would have responded, "you don't like the headlight look on the Wrangler? Great, go buy yourself one of the Wrangler's numerous off-road competitors...Oh, there is no off-road competitor?  No Sh#$ !?  Then STFU and drive the square headlight-ed Wrangler we sell you in '97.  Pussies!"  :lol:
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« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2006, 09:08:10 PM »
wow somone likes the aquar headlights alitlle too much :wall: .... i kinda like th round lights beter cuz thats how they were in the begining... but in defence i own a yj adn to down the tj.... whats with the big round plastic cheap flimsy lights they put on the bumper.... they look so cheap and stupid......
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« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2006, 09:26:51 PM »
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wow somone likes the aquar headlights alitlle too much :wall: .... i kinda like th round lights beter cuz thats how they were in the begining... but in defence i own a yj adn to down the tj.... whats with the big round plastic cheap flimsy lights they put on the bumper.... they look so cheap and stupid......


...um, you might not want to help so much, they had those fog lights available on the YJ's too... :whistle:
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« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2006, 09:37:52 AM »
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But, you ever notice that it was a U.S. company, Iacocca-led Chysler Jeep that instituted the square headlight YJ design.  It was Daimler, the German company that historically supplied vehicles to the whipped Nazi war machine, that decided to go back to round headlights for the Jeep.  

Iacocca, circa 1994, to letters from Wrangler owners not applauding the YJ look, would have responded, "you don't like the headlight look on the Wrangler? Great, go buy yourself one of the Wrangler's numerous off-road competitors...Oh, there is no off-road competitor?  No Sh#$ !?  Then STFU and drive the square headlight-ed Wrangler we sell you in '97.  Pussies!"  :lol:


Iacocca for PRESIDENT!!!

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Offline Jeffy

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« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2006, 12:59:11 PM »
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But, you ever notice that it was a U.S. company, Iacocca-led Chysler Jeep that instituted the square headlight YJ design.  It was Daimler, the German company that historically supplied vehicles to the whipped Nazi war machine, that decided to go back to round headlights for the Jeep.  



Actually, the YJ is not a Chrysler design. The XJ, YJ and the early development of the ZJ were all designed while still under AMC.  There is no way Chrysler could come up with a completely new design in less then a year.  Remember that the AMC was aquired by Chrysler in '87 the same year as the YJ.  And the TJ was already being developed as early as 1992/3.  They were running the basic suspension and frame with a YJ tub on it through out 1993.
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« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2006, 01:52:29 PM »
Yes, but, I used the word "institute," not "design"

-Institute- verb
to set up; establish; organize: "to institute a government."  


I see reason to believe that Chrysler did a lot more to ultimately "institute" the YJ model than did AMC, AMC's design-work notwithstanding
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Offline Jeffy

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« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2006, 02:40:23 PM »
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Yes, but, I used the word "institute," not "design"

-Institute- verb
to set up; establish; organize: "to institute a government."  


I see reason to believe that Chrysler did a lot more to ultimately "institute" the YJ model than did AMC, AMC's design-work notwithstanding


See now you're just being nitpicky to cover your ass.:whistle:

All Chrysler did was push it out the door.  It was a finished product well before the buy out.  It would have gone with or without Chrysler.  :stick:
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