Topic: 2007 wrangler

[chardrc]

ya but plastic gets britle when its cold and i like ymcold wether and dont want tovwory about palstic parts.. (now that i think of it it whouldnt get that britle anyways for how big it would have to be). and plastic gets faded adn eaten by uv rays form the sun.. but they oculd just use uv resestant or the paint could fix it........ i just cant see mysalf ever buying a new jeep now..... at least tell the next wrangler comes out if its any beter

[frosty]

Not to pick on mozman but he said

"The new Wrangler is a great compromise...Jeepers will simply need to think differently about what they need to change to achieve the type of vehicle they want and what they want it to do.

When we buy a vehicle we shouldnt really have to change it.  with enough work i can turn a honda civic into a jeep.  The vehicle should come from the factory being a jeep not a imitation of one that right from the get go needs real fenders and a grill among other things.  A lift kit and bigger tires are one thing but we shouldnt really have to be swapping out drivetrains.  If we are we must face it that the manufacturer did not do its job for the consumer.  Jeep has had some week links in the past GM151 peugote tranny dana35, ax-5, but we will now be getting a engine that is ok but designed for a minivan this engine has had its share of problems., a crappy automatic that has been plagued with problems since its inception back in 1989 and a body that needs some work to get it back to what a jeep is suppose to be.  maybe i will start with the civic and build my jeep from there.

[Mozman68]

Actually...my point was this...

Here is my "real" Jeep when I bought it (used...but I can't imagine it looked much different the day it was bought )



Here it is 6 months later.




stock brake lines were maxed out or I could have gone higher ...new ones going in tomorrow!

I truely believe there are more poseurs out there driving Jeeps than "true" Jeepers.  I completely understand your complaints and agree with a lot of them, but I think you are part of the loud minority on this one.  I actually find it funny that almost all of the car and 4wd magazines have actually praised the new Jeep without tearing it a new one.

You're right...you shouldn't have to change your Jeep...but the fact of the matter is DCX knows you will anyway, so why make the perfect Jeep for Frosty or MozMan68 or Jeffy??  There is no such thing...if there was, all of our Jeeps would be the same color and have the same mods.

It's the perfect Jeep for the masses and I imagine they will sell more JK's than TJ's becuase of the creature comforts and safety features added....I, of course, will probably buy one in a couple of years and proceed to make it look exactly like my existing Jeep.

In regards to the plastic grill....again, I didn't touch it, but it sure fooled me.  We're not talking about plastic like the fading black plastic flares...this  must be high impact paintable plastic like you see in those Saturn commercials where the shopping cart runs into the car and doesn't dent it or like the really nice bumpers and aero pieces I had on my $40+k Audi.  I can't think of a negative of actually having the grill being this new plastic...so, outside of it being "plastic", what would be the argument against it??

[Jeffy]

Some people don't like the word plastic and think it's inferior.  The grill is plastic...

[gomi]

Some people don't like the word plastic and think it's inferior.  The grill is plastic...

eeeeewwwwwwww!!!!...plastic!

[SMC4WD]

It's not called plastic anymore...

It's a Homopolymer Polypropylene grill  

[Jeffy]

It's not called plastic anymore...

It's a Homopolymer Polypropylene grill  

Just drive behind a gravel truck for several miles and see if you're still laughing.

[Liljeepz]

It's not called plastic anymore...

It's a Homopolymer Polypropylene grill  

Just drive behind a gravel truck for several miles and see if you're still laughing.

I don't think I would be laughing even in my TJ.... the radiator would be destroyed windshield cracked and the "steel" grill all chipped up, dented, and rust by the end of the next winter.....
Plastic may have a lil more give to it, my wife's Saturn stands up good to gravel... my TJ that's 3 years newer is starting to rust...
Plus the loaded JK is 8K lbs.... I would hate to see the weight if every thing was steel.

[zeitlerusmc]

you know this whole up roar about the new wranglers happend when the tj's came out too!!!!!! everyone hated it and said they are straying away from the "real jeep" and now looko at all the tj's running around. give the jk's some time and i bet a few of you non believers in here will be driving one!!! :::::::just put in my two pennies::::::

[chrisfranklin]

Was looking at the TeraFlex site and photos of JKs with the TeraFlex JK lifts.  Showed two "4 Door JK Rubicon Wranglers"  lifted, one wearing 35s, other 37s.  Kinda funny, but 35s look like they came standard from the factory on the JK 4 door wranglers; probably same can be said for the 2 door.  

Still love the CJ, YJ, TJ, and will certainly hold on to my YJ.  But, I am starting to like this JK -- give it a couple of years to work out the bugs and I may even plunk down for a 4 door Rubi (would love it with a Hemi, standard, but that engine is probaly going to be too much for the D44 Rubicon axles)