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wrangler387

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Re: DIY Jeep painting and color matching
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2007, 09:33:02 AM »
If you apply more then you need you can sand out the hump, your not going to get the bump filled in one coat either. How big of a dent are you trying to fill also?

EDIT:
Here is something on bondo/evercoat from the autobody101 forum i told you to check out:
http://www.autobody101.com/articles/article.php?title=Plastic%20Filler%20(aka%20Bondo)

Here is something on various grits of sandpaper to use and when:
http://www.autobody101.com/forums/about1945.html
« Last Edit: March 25, 2007, 09:45:38 AM by wrangler387 »

damon54

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Re: DIY Jeep painting and color matching
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2007, 11:41:58 AM »
Can't you get a Maaco paint job for about 300$?  What kind of quality difference can you get doing the spray can way.  Seems the PITA factor would make it worth spending the extra cash to have it done at a shop.   

chrisfranklin

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Re: DIY Jeep painting and color matching
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2007, 08:30:05 PM »
Personally I think the DIY spray job is the easy part.  I've got the factory DX8 black paint in cans + the clear coat in cans too.  Mask the Jeep, do a little sanding to prep and you are good.  My luck with DIY spray painting, so far, has been good.

I've seen the Scheib jobs and the paint isn't the factory color and the masking is not exactly top notch (though you can fix that with some Goof Off product).  Maaco is better although dunno about factory color, either. 

Its the filler part that is causing me a little trouble (but, I had to do it or I'd be kicking myself later on)

chrisfranklin

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Re: DIY Jeep painting and color matching
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2007, 09:17:11 PM »
If you apply more then you need you can sand out the hump, your not going to get the bump filled in one coat either. How big of a dent are you trying to fill also?

EDIT:
Here is something on bondo/evercoat from the autobody101 forum i told you to check out:
http://www.autobody101.com/articles/article.php?title=Plastic%20Filler%20(aka%20Bondo)

Here is something on various grits of sandpaper to use and when:
http://www.autobody101.com/forums/about1945.html

Thanks again for these links, Wrangler

chrisfranklin

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Re: DIY Jeep painting and color matching
« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2007, 04:42:37 PM »
If you apply more then you need you can sand out the hump, your not going to get the bump filled in one coat either. How big of a dent are you trying to fill also?

EDIT:
Here is something on bondo/evercoat from the autobody101 forum i told you to check out:
http://www.autobody101.com/articles/article.php?title=Plastic%20Filler%20(aka%20Bondo)

Here is something on various grits of sandpaper to use and when:
http://www.autobody101.com/forums/about1945.html

I read the links a couple of times.
The dent that I a filling is on the hood, basically where a gust of wind threw the popped hood against the top of the windshield hard and made a long line dent across the metal.  Its only about 3/8s of an inch deep, but I stare at it all day long if I'm driving, so I wanted to fix it.

Did the first Evercoat app Saturday.  Didn't have a body file, so their are some high spots (and low spots).  The Evercoat/Bondo is sandable, even after it has cured for 3 days, right (I figure it is)? I was going to sand down the high-spots with a block and some heavier grit paper and then apply the second round of Evercoat.  Think I should just do the second Evercoat app and then do the sanding or sand out the high spots, first?  Thanks.       

chrisfranklin

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Re: DIY Jeep painting and color matching
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2007, 10:33:53 PM »
Went a second round on the Evercoat this evening.  Also bought all the various grits of paper I am going to need.  This Evercoat stuff is good (as long as you keep the amount on the mixing board down to something golf-ball sized and manageable); mix too much and it slides all over the place (w/hardener added or not).   

After I get done with this I am going to build a Jeep body entirely out of 20 gallons of Evercoat and Chicken-wire.   :lol:

Note:  The Evercoat dent-filler came out great. Sands real nice, etc.  I am going over everything now with some primer filler to fill in the shallow scratches, etc. to give it that pro finish.  With the primer filler dry I moved on to sanding 600 and topcoat.  Course, spraying the hood while keeping it attached to the body means that you are spraying with the paint can while it's in a less-than-vertical position.
As such, the paint flow is awful.   May have to remove the hood  :fitz:
« Last Edit: March 30, 2007, 10:33:24 PM by chrisfranklin »

chrisfranklin

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Re: DIY Jeep painting and color matching
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2007, 01:08:51 AM »
So I filled the dents I had on the hood & fenders and was all set to paint in a discreet section of the parking lot at my place. Expected to get on it one day last weekend.  But, you know what happens?  A couple of teenage jokers at the apartment complex where I live in Toluca Lake, Ca. decided to light some fireworks and proceeded to set like 150 square acres in the Griffith Park/Hollywood Hills behind us on fire.  Photos of the moonscape that was the forest behind my place will follow this post   :lol:

Needless to say, using any flammable spray paints here now on my Jeep now could move my status with apt. security down from "barely-tolerate" to "call-the-cops."

wrangler387

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Re: DIY Jeep painting and color matching
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2007, 04:54:03 PM »
haha that sucks, similar situation with kids and fireworks happened across the street from where i live about 6-8 months ago... Teenagers just dont know better.
I would remove the hood if i were you. I think it would be a pain in the arse to try and get an even coat on it while on the jeep. The fenders i think you can do while they are on the jeep. I'm glad the evercoat stuff worked out for you, thats what i used on my old integra, needless to say i preferred it over "bondo" brand. Its been probably 2 years or so since i've messed around painting so a lot of the details have slipped my mind, thats why i keep recommending you to that site... There were a lot of professional autobody and painters on that forum when i was asking questions and searching.

damon54

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Re: DIY Jeep painting and color matching
« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2007, 06:09:25 PM »
Still a little hesitant to paint the body itself but will the same process work for the bumpers and roll bar?

chrisfranklin

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Re: DIY Jeep painting and color matching
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2007, 07:43:48 PM »
My first go at painting my Jeep a few months ago didn't work.  I was using an expensive batch color-matched spray paint on it outside and the wind was a b#$ch and most of the paint was getting pi#$ed away in to the air.  Also, I didn't have a back-up vehicle to use while the Jeep dried out with each coat.  And I didn't like the color of this black custom spray paint, either  :mad:.  So in the end, it was a fiasco. 

I've done the cheap auto paint places -- Maaco and Scheib -- on other cars.  You can do a lot of the body-work, masking, sanding and trim removal to keep costs down.  And they can prep it and give it a couple of coat of black for about $300 + tax.  But the end result can be hit or miss.

Lately, I have seriously been looking at a roller job.  Buy 3 quarts of some gloss black, Rustoleum marine paint -- which has supposedly decent UV protection and durability --  thin it out and do several coats with rollers and foam brushes. 
Masking is less of an issue doing this, unlike spraying in the wind rolled on paint will actually make it on the intended surface, you can do one section at a time and come back to it as necessary, each coat dries in 5-6 hours if thinned, none of the spray paint odor or rattle cans to shake, work that I have seen (in photos) looks ok, its fairly cheap to do ($50-$100 plus your time), and if you damage the finish off road you can fix it yourself.  I figure if you use a higher quality paint, you can probably get a finish that lasts more than the 2 or so years standard Rustoleum is supposed to give. 

Yeah, sh#ts going to get in the paint if you do it outside and you are going to sand like crazy.  But I think I'll end up doing a better job than the $300 Maaco deal.




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Re: DIY Jeep painting and color matching
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2007, 12:15:38 AM »
If I give this a go, I'll work on getting some photos this time.   ;)

chrisfranklin

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Re: DIY Jeep painting and color matching
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2007, 08:35:22 PM »
Read the white corvair roller/rustoleum post:   http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html.
Guy who did it said he was considering using a higher quality of paint the next time around because he had heard people say that the Rustoleum paint jobs on their cars had faded. 

I wanted to order several quarts of Rustoleum marine paint (looking for better wear and fade-resistance).  But outlet where I found it wouldn't sell to me because shipping address was in California (and the Rust marine paint fell under Volatile Organic Compound  or VOC classification).

Then I read this post on using Interlux Polyurethane Marine Paint as auto paint:  http://carpainting.wetpaint.com/page/Rollering+Interlux+Brightside+Polyurethane+Paint.

You don't thin the poly type paints nearly as much as Rustoleum (Rustoleum is 50/50 with mineral spirits).  Interlux post suggests painting car using ratios of 90% polyurethane/10% mineral spirits, 95%/5%, and 100% poly/none as the coats progress.  Drying time is 24 hours with the thinned polyurethane versus 5-6 hours with 50/50 Rustoleum. 

I went ahead and ordered 3 quarts of this single-stage, polyurethane enamel called Blue Water Marine Paint, http://www.ipaint.us/blwapoto.html., since I could find Interlux in Gloss Black. 

chrisfranklin

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Re: DIY Jeep painting and color matching
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2007, 06:58:46 AM »
Received the three quarts of this Blue Water Paint.   I'll be happy if this stuff works out well.  Still have to do a little bodywork and sanding.  Suspect that the "ultra gloss" urethane enamel paint job could end up looking more blingy/pimp than I wanted.

But give the smog a couple of days and the shine will dim a little.  Give the smog a week and it'll go flat black  :lol: