Topic: 32s on an unlifted YJ?

[Jeffy]

dunno marc, from the pictures, they dont look like stock jeep shackles, i kno its hard as hell to see but look closely, maybe has a small shackle lift, if not like jeffy said thats with track and sway bars.  with them installed a yj will barely flex.

Those look to be the stock stamped shackles.  With that little room between the tires and fenders, it can't be lifted.  My Jeep was a bit tight even with 32's and 3" lift.

[JeepManMarc]

Im almost positive the shackles are stock, I am wondering if this jeep has a rear dana44 and possibly a front, neither one look identical to the axles on my TJ, the front appears to have larger shafts but they may get thinner where they go through the bearing iand into the housing.  I dont know axles well enough to tell at a glance.  It does have all the factory sway and trac bars still in place, without them it would rub like crazy.

[lanulos89]

ok well once again proved wrong by jeffy    ok i thought i saw a curve in the shackles figure maybe a set of boomerangs or something but nope jeffy was and is pretty much always right 

[Jeffy]

ok well once again proved wrong by jeffy    ok i thought i saw a curve in the shackles figure maybe a set of boomerangs or something but nope jeffy was and is pretty much always right 

Hahah, I can spot those ugly stock shackles from a mile away!     I went back to running them in the back after I raised my T-case up.

Im almost positive the shackles are stock, I am wondering if this jeep has a rear dana44 and possibly a front, neither one look identical to the axles on my TJ, the front appears to have larger shafts but they may get thinner where they go through the bearing iand into the housing.  I dont know axles well enough to tell at a glance.  It does have all the factory sway and trac bars still in place, without them it would rub like crazy.

I have to say that the axles look stock.  It has stock bolt patterns.  You can see how tight the pattern is around the center cap.  Installing a 44 front would involve a lot of work unless it was a Rubicon D44 and even that has a lot of extra bits on it that would make it stand out on a YJ.  I'm gonna say, it's all stock except for the tires and the aftermarket AR Gambler wheels.

[chrisfranklin]

The last run I was on I saw this guy with 31s and a rear locker get high-centered and tow-strapped off.  Another guy with 33's and rear locker managed to scrape through ok. 

I know as soon as I go 31s I am going to bite off more than I can chew, get high-centered and kick myself for not doing 33s.  From what I've read, I think you can scrape and squeeze through the hardest trails in Southern California with 33s - this is on, for example, The "Sledge" and "Jack-hammer" Trails  a bit east of the OC/San Diego area (as long as you are locked front and rear and have a winch)

But, of course a smart move to 33s means lift, axle swap, regear, new wheels, & drivetrain work.  All that would easily run me $5,000+.  I may have to be a bit more conservative and go 31s, something I can do for probably less than $1000 and just be selective with the trails (and/or borrow somebody elses Rubicon "King" and drive Sledgehammer with that instead  )

[Jeffy]

The last run I was on I saw this guy with 31s and a rear locker get high-centered and tow-strapped off.  Another guy with 33's and rear locker managed to scrape through ok. 

I know as soon as I go 31s I am going to bite off more than I can chew, get high-centered and kick myself for not doing 33s.  From what I've read, I think you can scrape and squeeze through the hardest trails in Southern California with 33s - this is on, for example, The "Sledge" and "Jack-hammer" Trails  a bit east of the OC/San Diego area (as long as you are locked front and rear and have a winch)

But, of course a smart move to 33s means lift, axle swap, regear, new wheels, & drivetrain work.  All that would easily run me $5,000+.  I may have to be a bit more conservative and go 31s, something I can do for probably less than $1000 and just be selective with the trails (and/or borrow somebody elses Rubicon "King" and drive Sledgehammer with that instead  )

For any of the Hammers you better have a minimum of 35" tires...  I'd do the said lift above and then eventually tuck the transfer case up.  That will gain you some more clearance.  Anything more and you might as well go with a SOA and you'd be fine reusing all the above for 35-37's.

[JeepManMarc]

ok well once again proved wrong by jeffy    ok i thought i saw a curve in the shackles figure maybe a set of boomerangs or something but nope jeffy was and is pretty much always right 

Hahah, I can spot those ugly stock shackles from a mile away!     I went back to running them in the back after I raised my T-case up.

Im almost positive the shackles are stock, I am wondering if this jeep has a rear dana44 and possibly a front, neither one look identical to the axles on my TJ, the front appears to have larger shafts but they may get thinner where they go through the bearing iand into the housing.  I dont know axles well enough to tell at a glance.  It does have all the factory sway and trac bars still in place, without them it would rub like crazy.

I have to say that the axles look stock.  It has stock bolt patterns.  You can see how tight the pattern is around the center cap.  Installing a 44 front would involve a lot of work unless it was a Rubicon D44 and even that has a lot of extra bits on it that would make it stand out on a YJ.  I'm gonna say, it's all stock except for the tires and the aftermarket AR Gambler wheels.

Are those Gambler wheels worth anything?  I am wondering about putting my 31's on them and slapping them on my TJ.

[Jeffy]

Are those Gambler wheels worth anything?  I am wondering about putting my 31's on them and slapping them on my TJ.

Only if you like those wheels.  They are maybe worth $5-75 each.  Hopefully he has all 5 since they have been discontinued.

[chrisfranklin]

Was getting a little exercise this morning and came across an 18 wheeler  flatbed trailor that three Military H1s on it.  So I stop and look at these H1s up close. 

Sure enough, the Military H1s are running BFG M/Ts "Miltary OZ" in 37." 

[oldjeep]

If you want to get some cheap boomerang shackles, this guy sells them for $20 a pair.  Don't come painted or with bolts, but a nice way to get a little lift and allow the shackles to stop hitting the bumpers.  Seems to do good work, he's cutting the rock rings for my new rims.
http://copperheadfab.com/index.php?action=catview&cat=Boomerang%20Shackles

[Jeffy]

Was getting a little exercise this morning and came across an 18 wheeler  flatbed trailor that three Military H1s on it.  So I stop and look at these H1s up close. 

Sure enough, the Military H1s are running BFG M/Ts "Miltary OZ" in 37." 

You do not want to run those tires.  They are extremely stiff and not DOT.  They are also 16" wheels.

[oldjeep]

Was getting a little exercise this morning and came across an 18 wheeler  flatbed trailor that three Military H1s on it.  So I stop and look at these H1s up close. 

Sure enough, the Military H1s are running BFG M/Ts "Miltary OZ" in 37." 

You do not want to run those tires.  They are extremely stiff and not DOT.  They are also 16" wheels.

16.5" wheels   I used to run one of the 36" Hummer goodyears as a spare on my last jeep (which ran recentered Military Hummer rims) you could run it with no air it was so stiff.

[Jeffy]

Was getting a little exercise this morning and came across an 18 wheeler  flatbed trailor that three Military H1s on it.  So I stop and look at these H1s up close. 

Sure enough, the Military H1s are running BFG M/Ts "Miltary OZ" in 37." 

You do not want to run those tires.  They are extremely stiff and not DOT.  They are also 16" wheels.

16.5" wheels   I used to run one of the 36" Hummer goodyears as a spare on my last jeep (which ran recentered Military Hummer rims) you could run it with no air it was so stiff.

Damn!  I was looking for this thread to correct it but got tied up on some other threads...