Topic: Superchargers anyone running them?

[jetty]

I'm new here and don't want to make a negative first impression but just have to ask..... why more power? I just got another 4 banger jeep, I normally work on, and drive, high end german cars.... but that aside, it is a JEEP??? I bought the 4 banger on purpose... when you are not on pavement, and you are in a serious gear reduction, what the hell "power" do you think you need.. I have heard of the superchargers and turbo's and yada yada yada that you can get for a jeep but you may as well include some shortys, a short throw shifter, some slicks, underbody neon, and lower the f-in thing by a couple inches while you're at it! The only "necessarry" option the 4 banger needs to be more effective within it's intended design parameters is the 4L throttle body swap so it lugs effectively when crawling. Other than that, buy a designer SUV, or sell your 4 banger Jeep and get the 6 banger Jeep and see if that really makes you more happy ....... that said.... hehem... I have a '93 Mercedes 2.6L inline 6 beggin' to crawl under the hood of my new wrangler and being I know how to do it, I may just have to give it a try......

[jetty]

ok, couldn't avoid the negative first impression thing here. after re-reading my post I realize it may have come off a little pretentious. I know the 4 banger lacks at highways speeds and "off the line" for that matter... I am not nieve to the point. But being I am an older "heeper" I see more and more wranglers out there with "youngins" that know nothing of the wave and think their classic YJ's are a "ricer in progress" and it is a little disheartening. The truth is, if you have the money for a supercharger and all the appropriate peripheral modifications that go along with it then you have the money for a decent engine swap since, let's face it, squeezing performance from the 2.5 is analagous to squeezing a diamond from a rock, rocks are hard and tough, but your pursuance is misguided.... the f-in intake and exhaust are side by side for christ sake, if you don't understand the underlying signifigance of this simple, over-looked caveat then press on, otherwise you know what I mean and you leave the little gem as it is and enjoy it for what it is, that is what I have chosen to do.... and that ends my little eulogy to the beautiful little cast iron pig under our hoods......

[wildman4x4nut]

Well you did come across with a negative first impression.

I am one of those guys talking about putting a supercharger onto my 4cyl. I do not have a tow rig and so I have to drive there instead. So getting up hills and not have a VW bus pass me is high on my priority list. I ahve done the regearing and other performance mods. The other thing is that I have always wanted to run a forced induction just for the fun of it. So I am sorry but I do think it has a place in a DD Jeep if that is what you are looking for. I might still just do the V-8 swap and be done with it. Only time will tell.

[lutzke21]

I have to ask Jetty,

Is your jeep still completely stock?  Are you still running a vacuum line to your front axle disconnect?  Stock wheels and tires?  Stock radio and speakers?  

My point is simply, Jeepers like to "personalize" their jeeps.  They like to increase articulation.  They like to increase performance.  They like a "boomin'" stereo.  Some may even want to, ahem, ricer-ize (God help us all).  In my opinion, this board serves two purposes, to help those fix problems that come up, and to help those wishing to customize their jeeps.

Personally, like you, I dig my squirrels.  If some want to give theirs steriods, I say go for it.  I may learn something by reading about it here.

[jetty]

hey, thanks for the reply's and I am really sorry. I did not mean to take away from the fact that customizing cars in general is really fun.... I do it all the time and it is my business so I would be a hypocrite to say it is unnecessarry.... however, the point about vacuum engagement, suspension, etc. was beside my point. Upgrading the suspension and drivetrain is not outside the intended purpose of the vehicle itself and a more articulate suspension or wide track, agressive tread tires are not superfilous endeavors for a trail jeep, however a 300hp V8 is. Catch my drift.... that said, I am not intent on staunchly defending this point because I completely agree with both of you. Whatever you do to your jeep, outside of "ricing it" is cool and fun and we love them so that is why we do it, enough said..... I do have a nice stereo, it won't crack any glass but you can hear it with the top down, and no, my jeep will not remain stock for long, I am a tech and will mess with it till the day I sell it. So please don't take what I said to heart, I didn't mean to start a rant, I just wanted to make a point about the little engine specifically. I'm a fool-blooded, guiness chuggin', Irish boy and I came out swingin' when I should've been singin'! I really like this site and look forward to reading and posting when I can....

[lutzke21]

Well, with that said, I wish to remain off topic for one more post.  Please bare with me all.  Jetty, a warm welcome to 4BangerJP, we look forward to your input, whatever the subject.

Now, back to the supercharger thread!  

[wildman4x4nut]

Well, with that said, I wish to remain off topic for one more post.  Please bare with me all.  Jetty, a warm welcome to 4BangerJP, we look forward to your input, whatever the subject.

Now, back to the supercharger thread!  

X2

I guess I'll be the test engine to see how a old school Rimmer supercharger does on a modified TJ. I am adding weight with my axles & tires, not counting the winch, bumpers, spare tire carrier and all the stuff I carry too.

[jpcreep]

Jetty,

Welcome to the wonderful world of owning and modifying a Jeep.  If you have to ask you will never know, but  since you are on this forum means you have already been bitten.  Good luck on keeping the dogs at bay.  

97 TJ w/ avenger supercharger.  No regrets.

[wildman4x4nut]

Well guys call me a wimp or what ever else you want to. I have decided after many nights thinking about it that I am not going to do the supercharger on my TJ.

As a matter of fact I just made the appointment with the engine installer to get everything ready and I will be dropping my TJ off next week. I am going to install a Dodge Magnum 5.2 V-8 and 4speed Auto. And to top the whole shebang off I am going to install the new STaK 3speed T-case. So I'll guess I can't really hang out here after I do the swap since I'll then be a 4banger+4!!! I'll take pictures and post them up once everything is done. And just a word of warning this is not a swap for the weak of heart. When I get done with my TJ in the next 3 months I'll have almost enough spent to have bought a new one. But the end results will be more than worth it.

[Jeffy]

BOOO!   :P

If you're going to have someone else do the install and have the money then why not.  :)