Topic: ordering gears need help!

[FourbangerYJ]

Precision Gear as well as Alloy USA are now owned by Omix Ada.

I didn't know this. I am glad I got my gears and shafts BEFORE they sold.
If I need gears I'm gonna go with Richmond. Shafts either the new Birfield style or 10 Factory. I like Ron a lot. I talked with him a lot on the phone right after he started A USA.

[bammerman]

Bammerman,

My advice, find somebody to do this for you; dont try it yourself.  Changing rings and pinions requires some knowledge and use of special tools, which, based on your questions, I am assuming you dont have.  Now, since I assume you will have this done, sometimes it is cheaper to get the parts from the shop doing the work.  If you have a person (as in not a shop) or in some shops, they let you bring the parts without charging you extra for installing parts not bought at the store, then buy the parts Jeffy mentioned, but not all shops install parts that you have not bought from them...  Just a heads up.

I am trying to do a barter. I am a webmaster and will to do free work for trade.  i have one guy who might be willing his rates are $60.00 and hour where mine are 125 so I am not sure who is getting the better deal  

On the fan thing does anyone have or wrote up a manual on how to do this with pictures?  I am a computer guy so when it comes to parts and mechanic stuff it all looks foreign to me.

[jfrabat]

I am trying to do a barter. I am a webmaster and will to do free work for trade.  i have one guy who might be willing his rates are $60.00 and hour where mine are 125 so I am not sure who is getting the better deal  

On the fan thing does anyone have or wrote up a manual on how to do this with pictures?  I am a computer guy so when it comes to parts and mechanic stuff it all looks foreign to me.

The controller part of it you can get from DCControl's website.  Take a look at their installation sheet for details on the controller.

As for the install, youst google it; there are TONS of articles out there.  Trust me here, this is not rocket science, and as long as you have the most basic hand tools and some common sense, you should be able to install it no problem.  Just doing a quick search, I found this article, and although not a Ford fan, it's similar to install (I have not read the article, so I dont know if it is good or not!).

[bammerman]

Well now, talked with a rep at a 4x4 customization shop today and this is my exact conversation.

Me: hi i live in the mountains and can't go up hills faster than 50miles per hour in 3rd gear with my 4cyl.  I would like to be able to do it at 65mph at least, i do go play in the mud but don't do any climbing.  I was told going to a 4.88 gear ratio in my 90 YJ would fix this problem. (he stops me right there)

him: you do not need to re-gear just get an auto locker for the rear for around 4-5 hundred, this will accomplish what you want and save you time and money.

Me: Are you sure about that because everyone I have spoken with and infomation I have looked up pointed to re-gearing to 4.88.

Him: unless you want to throw in a v8 for a ton of money go with the auto locker in the rear and maybe redo your throttle body.

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This is an option that was never given to me, I do not know what a locker even does (did look it up though), and if he is right.  

* you guys have been more help than the other forums I have been on, thanks

[FourbangerYJ]

Well now, talked with a rep at a 4x4 customization shop today and this is my exact conversation.

Me: hi i live in the mountains and can't go up hills faster than 50miles per hour in 3rd gear with my 4cyl.  I would like to be able to do it at 65mph at least, i do go play in the mud but don't do any climbing.  I was told going to a 4.88 gear ratio in my 90 YJ would fix this problem. (he stops me right there)

him: you do not need to re-gear just get an auto locker for the rear for around 4-5 hundred, this will accomplish what you want and save you time and money.

Me: Are you sure about that because everyone I have spoken with and infomation I have looked up pointed to re-gearing to 4.88.

Him: unless you want to throw in a v8 for a ton of money go with the auto locker in the rear and maybe redo your throttle body.

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This is an option that was never given to me, I do not know what a locker even does (did look it up though), and if he is right.  

* you guys have been more help than the other forums I have been on, thanks

Don't spend a dime with this guy! A locker gives your better traction that is all. And on a 90 there is no throttle body upgrade. Regearing is what you need. If you want to add a locker than do it while you are having it regeared. It would save on labor.

[sharpxmen]

Well now, talked with a rep at a 4x4 customization shop today and this is my exact conversation.

Me: hi i live in the mountains and can't go up hills faster than 50miles per hour in 3rd gear with my 4cyl.  I would like to be able to do it at 65mph at least, i do go play in the mud but don't do any climbing.  I was told going to a 4.88 gear ratio in my 90 YJ would fix this problem. (he stops me right there)

him: you do not need to re-gear just get an auto locker for the rear for around 4-5 hundred, this will accomplish what you want and save you time and money.

Me: Are you sure about that because everyone I have spoken with and infomation I have looked up pointed to re-gearing to 4.88.

Him: unless you want to throw in a v8 for a ton of money go with the auto locker in the rear and maybe redo your throttle body.

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This is an option that was never given to me, I do not know what a locker even does (did look it up though), and if he is right.  

* you guys have been more help than the other forums I have been on, thanks

  - your question and his answer are absolutely unrelated. As a matter of fact an autolocker will "eat" some power compared to an open diff (just a little, but still) so the result will actually be the opposite.

[bammerman]

Glad you guys started this site, I thought it seemed odd.

[Jeffy]

Don't go to a 4x4 shop!  Find a speed shop which works on race cars like oval or dirt track.  They do gears all the time and know what they're doing.

[bammerman]

Took your advice and went to a off road racing shop

verdict.

8.8 axels in rear with 4.88 gears (2k but bearings, etc... full replaced)
snorkel with electric fan on a toggle to shutoff
stick with current 2.5 lift but put 33's and they will get me some custom tube fenders
New springs to get the flex.
4.0 throttle body to replace my current one
add an exhaust and air filter...


3-4k total for all mods


sound like it can make some ponies instead of the squirrels?


might even get labor reduced to redo their website :)
http://www.shaffersoffroad.com/site/

[FourbangerYJ]

Took your advice and went to a off road racing shop

verdict.

8.8 axels in rear with 4.88 gears (2k but bearings, etc... full replaced)
snorkel with electric fan on a toggle to shutoff
stick with current 2.5 lift but put 33's and they will get me some custom tube fenders
New springs to get the flex.
4.0 throttle body to replace my current one
add an exhaust and air filter...


3-4k total for all mods


sound like it can make some ponies instead of the squirrels?


might even get labor reduced to redo their website :)
http://www.shaffersoffroad.com/site/

It would be worth going with the 8.8 VS spending money on that D35. Good choice!
With a 90 you can't do the 4.0 TB swap. You have 3 holes on the intake manifold where the 4.0 has 4 holes.
Remember you need to regear the front to match the rear.
Shaffers has a good image from what I hear.

[Jeffy]

For that much coin I might consider going with two D44's and foregoing some of the other things.

Shaffers does have a good reputation.

[sharpxmen]

snorkel with electric fan on a toggle to shutoff

what's a snorkel with electric fan? or you meant electric fan for the rad and a snorkel for intake (so the 2 are unrelated) - just making sure you're not getting one of those electric superchargers

[jfrabat]

Based on the IM's, I think he means a snorkel and a FoMoCo or similar fan for the radiator...

[jagular7]

where did you get a price like that..I am very intereasted

Note the date. It is 3 yrs old and the discussion stopped.

I wouldn't choose ebay for purchasing gear sets unless it is a mfr. Look at 4wd.com, 4wheelparts.com, vendors section under pirate4x4's bb, pull a magazine off the rack and look over the ads, look at your local truck parts supplier (not auto parts store - truck!), check your local 4wd clubs. There are lots of places to review for parts availability and warranty. For gears, you also best look for install capabilities and warranty on that as well.

Do note: be concerned with the ease of breaking axle shafts from insuperior designed stock differentials, gear ratio dividers within specific diffs which may require a case change, locker choices, upgrade shafts, brakes, etc. Since you will have the diff open, look into adding lockers (lots of levels to choose). If case swap is required, a case locker is an option.

[sharpxmen]

where did you get a price like that..I am very intereasted

this is what i did: i found a store on eBay that sold Motive Gear 4.88s for front and rear for something like $135 and $145 - i made sure they have an online store not on eBay - then i called 4wd.com and asked them to do price matching on them (whatever you ask them to price match needs to have a website they can verify the price from, they will not do eBay). You can wait for a deal time when they have free shipping, if they say they won't do both (free shipping and price match) then order them and after they ship it call them and ask for a price match, worked for me couple of times - they will refund the difference on your credit card. An install kit is about $50 i believe so that would get you to about the $380 in total (i think even cheaper if you go with separate seal/gasket, shim and bearing kits as i found that the install kit is more expensive than buying these separate - Rock Auto has good prices on bearings, G2 are good on seal/gasket & marking compound kits, shims are spicer i think in all the sets or omix-ada which is the parent company i believe)