Topic: ordering gears need help!

[bammerman]

Shaffers does have a good reputation.

That's good, there shop is about 5miles from me, which is convenient.

[Jeffy]

They are a rock crawling family.  They were heavy into competition rock crawling.

[Sine Deviance]

3-4k total for all mods

For that much coin I might consider going with two D44's and foregoing some of the other things.

$3000-$4000 for those mods?

Dude, for THAT kind of coin, if I were you I'd sell the 2.5L Wrangler and buy a 4.0L Wrangler. All of that just to get a little more speed on hills is definitely overkill.

[bammerman]

Well it is parts and labor. Plus it is for looks too (lift, bigger tires, the wheel extenders) Plus I have rhino lined it and taken care of most of the engine problems seems to be a waste to sell it now.

[Sine Deviance]

Plus I have rhino lined it and taken care of most of the engine problems seems to be a waste to sell it now.

Since you've already put some wrench-time into it, you could probably get more than what you paid for it... should definitely be enough to get a YJ with a good 4.0L already in it. And then you can spend the money on your more powerful 4.0L that you would have spent on your 2.5L.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the 2.5L, it's a strong engine. But if my YJ wasn't a Rio Grande edition, I'd probably swap it for the first 4.0L YJ in good condition that came along. It's just a thought, that's all.

[sharpxmen]

Since you've already put some wrench-time into it, you could probably get more than what you paid for it... should definitely be enough to get a YJ with a good 4.0L already in it. And then you can spend the money on your more powerful 4.0L that you would have spent on your 2.5L.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the 2.5L, it's a strong engine. But if my YJ wasn't a Rio Grande edition, I'd probably swap it for the first 4.0L YJ in good condition that came along. It's just a thought, that's all.

what are the extras in the rio grande (i figured that "grande" is in regards to displacement :)

[Sine Deviance]

/begin threadjack

what are the extras in the rio grande (i figured that "grande" is in regards to displacement :)

From Wikipedia:

The Rio Grande Edition (Available in champagne gold, moss green and white, with a Pueblo themed interior trim package, this trim was only available in 1995 and was added to spice up the base model Wrangler 'S' hence this trim was only available with the 4-cylinder models)

This is what I learned from talking to some people at Chrysler after I bought the Jeep; For starters, you got Spicer 297x U-joints. Supposedly, the Rio Grande was the first and last time a factory YJ ever had them. The body and frame are galvanized, which helps prevent the onset of rust, but I think all '95 YJs were galvanized. In addition, the Rio Grande could be customized with every factory option that could be bolted onto the 2.5L at the time, so the vast majority of them had a hard top, A/C, and the automatic trans (but not mine :D ) All of the rear windows were tinted black from the factory, including the soft windows if you opted for the soft top. You also got a slightly two-tone Black & Tan (Spice)-colored interior with a special design on the seats, as well as a black spare cover to offset the spice top, as can all be seen on mine here:









And finally, a Rio Grande badge on the rear quarter panels, as seen here:



But that stuff isn't the best part. The real reason I'm so happy I ended up with a Rio Grande in awesome condition... Jeep only offered the Rio Grande trim package in 1995. Out of that, only 4200 were ever produced, making it one of the rarest mass-production trim packages in history. It's really not any better than any other '95 YJ, just way harder to find one in decent condition. I like the fact that many people, lots of them Jeepers, ask me what the Rio Grande package is all about because they've never seen one before.

/end threadjack

[sharpxmen]

your's is in a very good condition indeed. Mine is also galvanized, but i don't think the frame is (pretty sure it isn't) and i'm wondering if my frame was ever replaced or that was one of the differences (RG vs regular YJ Sport)

i have the same center console - good choice :)

[Sine Deviance]

i have the same center console - good choice :)

Bestop Trailmax FTW!

[bammerman]

Think I found a deal.  I found a Ford 8.8 from a 94-95 mustang selling for 150.00.  He has 3.55 gears in it I believe which I will put in the 4.88.  But if he still has it I think I am going to get it.

[bammerman]

  Nope I guess it is a set of gear he is selling for a 8.8 not the rear end.  damn misleading posts!

[bammerman]

With a 90 you can't do the 4.0 TB swap. You have 3 holes on the intake manifold where the 4.0 has 4 holes.

I was just going back through the thread to read up on the advice you all gave me and saw this!  I must not have seen it before! What MOD can I do to the TB if I cannot do teh 4.0L TB conversion swap? I checked the search but really didn't come up with any answers.

[sharpxmen]

I was just going back through the thread to read up on the advice you all gave me and saw this!  I must not have seen it before! What MOD can I do to the TB if I cannot do teh 4.0L TB conversion swap? I checked the search but really didn't come up with any answers.

i didn't see any write-ups on the tbi throttle body, but next time i'm at a junkyard i'll have a look at one to see if it can be bored out larger (i don't think it can but i'll have a look). You can try to find a larger one that will fit, but you're in research territory with that.

[Jeffy]

i didn't see any write-ups on the tbi throttle body, but next time i'm at a junkyard i'll have a look at one to see if it can be bored out larger (i don't think it can but i'll have a look). You can try to find a larger one that will fit, but you're in research territory with that.

It wouldn't be that hard though.  Look up the gasket for the TB.  Then cross-reference that to what other vehicles use that same gasket.  Then look up the specs for those TB's.

[chardrc]

Ive done some light investigation online (when im bored) to do that and have found nothing so far. if you got to an auto-parts website you can search the gasket by part number to find other applications, but after that its hard to find any info on the other vehicles. my only idea right now is that the tbi basically has 2 major parts the upper half that has the fuel injector fpr and whatnot. then there is the bottom half that just has the throttle plate like the mpi buys. so if that bottom half has a tapper to it i would thin you could get that bored out to match the top (if you look at the top half you will see why boring that part would be impractical if not impossible with the injector in there.)  problem being i can't find any dimensions online and don't want to take mine apart. good luck with the search  (info for the jeep tbi is few and far between but every time i search i find something new)