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Re: Ox locker in a D35
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2007, 05:04:19 AM »
Um, I'm not saying that anyone is wrong in what they have said, however I always thought that, for snow at least, you wanted a skinny tire to reduce your lbs per square inch to sink into the snow better, thus getting to the surface of the roadway more, providing traction.

I guess it could be true that with wider tires, you would ride on top of snow, but it has been my experience that for snow you should have as skinny a tire as possible. I also heard that with wider tires, you actually plow the snow as you drive causing the drive tire to push more snow.

These are by no means facts or bible truths, just my 2-3 cents.

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Re: Ox locker in a D35
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2007, 05:07:09 AM »
In my previous post I said reduce lbs per square inch, what I meant to say was increase lbs per square inch. Sorry.

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Re: Ox locker in a D35
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2007, 06:02:34 AM »
thats what ive heard also...
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Re: Ox locker in a D35
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2007, 06:49:57 AM »
I've heard both. I remember seeing some old video of Model T's with their skinny wheels and tires, up to the axles in snow having no problems getting around. Skinny tires make sense I guess up to a certain depth. Seems like once the snow approaches axle depth you want the ability to float on top of the snow, so as not to push or plow the snow under the chassis which would ultimately in the end bring you to a stop.
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Re: Ox locker in a D35
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2007, 06:52:14 AM »
same but sknny tires look weird  my buddies has em and we break his nutz all the time  those are 33's

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Re: Ox locker in a D35
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2007, 06:59:23 AM »
Lol, yup...those do look weird. I didn't think you could get those that skinny at 33 inches. Are they 10.5's?
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Re: Ox locker in a D35
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2007, 07:10:56 AM »
I'll be going skinny when I switch tires. Better in snow, less weight, less exposed tread, etc.

I like the 34x9.5 flavor...


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Re: Ox locker in a D35
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2007, 11:23:43 AM »
Um, I'm not saying that anyone is wrong in what they have said, however I always thought that, for snow at least, you wanted a skinny tire to reduce your lbs per square inch to sink into the snow better, thus getting to the surface of the roadway more, providing traction.

I guess it could be true that with wider tires, you would ride on top of snow, but it has been my experience that for snow you should have as skinny a tire as possible. I also heard that with wider tires, you actually plow the snow as you drive causing the drive tire to push more snow.

These are by no means facts or bible truths, just my 2-3 cents.

There are two schools of thought.  One is to dig though the snow while the other is to ride on top of the show.  There are advantages to each.  A narrower tire will have a tendency to dig down more because there is more weight concentrated on a smaller area.  Honestly though we're comparing 7" wide tires to 10.5" wide tires are both are fairly skinny.  One downside to the digging down school, is if you're in deep snow.  You could be burying your axles which will act like a plow.  The other issue is if you hit hard dirt or road, it could very well be covered in ice which isn't very good for traction.  With a wider tire, you will be spreading the weight over a wider area.  The downside is that you need to ride on top.  If the tires start to dig you're getting into trouble.  The other issue is tread pattern.  For snow you want AT's since they will pack up with snow.  Snow, sticks best to snow...
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Re: Ox locker in a D35
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2007, 11:26:44 AM »
I'll be going skinny when I switch tires. Better in snow, less weight, less exposed tread, etc.

I like the 34x9.5 flavor...

Those tires are bias play and aren't lighter weight really.  They will measure 35" tall.  Also keep in mind that if you drive on road a lot they won't last nearly as long as a radial tire.  Since they're bias ply, they will probably form flat spots in cold weather.
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Re: Ox locker in a D35
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2007, 04:48:38 PM »
Those tires are bias play and aren't lighter weight really.

Than what, radials? I realize that, I've driven on bias ply tires in the past. I'm looking at doing the 2 sets of tires thing. Plus I'll be on a full trailer soon so that in itself will keep most of the miles off. I usually drive my truck around town unless the weather is really nice or really bad.

We'll see what happens when the time comes though. I'm collecting too many toys to put any real money in the Jeep.


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« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2007, 04:54:09 PM »
Ok I'm going to toss my $0.02 in here since I live and drive in PA and I live a very short distance from the snowiest area in PA, we has over 250"s of snow, too bad the official records for the county are from the where the least snow falls and because of the lake there is a difference of several feet between the two, but anyway, in this area it is a general rule you want the skinnest/tallest tire possible, the 4 banger Jeeps are already fairly light will have a tendency to float and have real issues in bad weather. Whan your talking about having to go to work no-matter what in bad weather the snow will not be the big issue, the ice and slush of melting snow will be.  The actual snow is easy to get through, ice requires a tire w/ good tread sipping and studs make it even better, the slush requires a skinny enough tire to avoid hydroplaining.

I run these studded in the 31x10.50 variety for my snow tires, they measure 8" across the thread.

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Re: Ox locker in a D35
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2007, 05:12:31 PM »
Ok I'm going to toss my $0.02 in here since I live and drive in PA and I live a very short distance from the snowiest area in PA, we has over 250"s of snow, too bad the official records for the county are from the where the least snow falls and because of the lake there is a difference of several feet between the two, but anyway, in this area it is a general rule you want the skinnest/tallest tire possible, the 4 banger Jeeps are already fairly light will have a tendency to float and have real issues in bad weather. Whan your talking about having to go to work no-matter what in bad weather the snow will not be the big issue, the ice and slush of melting snow will be.  The actual snow is easy to get through, ice requires a tire w/ good tread sipping and studs make it even better, the slush requires a skinny enough tire to avoid hydroplaining.

I run these studded in the 31x10.50 variety for my snow tires, they measure 8" across the thread.


I take it your in the "Erie" area? If so I know you guys get piled on way more than we do out here. I thought about getting a set of studded tires for the winter but cash is a little to tight to be able to do that. Last season the tires I had were passenger car tires. They were terrible. I haven't had any real snow time with the BFG's A/T's in the snow yet. Hopefully they will work well for me.

What make and model of tire is that in the photo? It's not large enough to read.
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Re: Ox locker in a D35
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2007, 08:40:44 PM »
they are 1
Lol, yup...those do look weird. I didn't think you could get those that skinny at 33 inches. Are they 10.5's?

nope i got 10.5's on my yj they are narrower lol.  i dont rempeber the size  but they look madd funny

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Re: Ox locker in a D35
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2007, 09:09:44 PM »
nope i got 10.5's on my yj they are narrower lol.  i dont rempeber the size  but they look madd funny

They must be 33x9.5R15's since they're AT's.  The MT's are 33.10.5's.
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Re: Ox locker in a D35
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2007, 03:53:19 PM »


I take it your in the "Erie" area? If so I know you guys get piled on way more than we do out here. I thought about getting a set of studded tires for the winter but cash is a little to tight to be able to do that. Last season the tires I had were passenger car tires. They were terrible. I haven't had any real snow time with the BFG's A/T's in the snow yet. Hopefully they will work well for me.

What make and model of tire is that in the photo? It's not large enough to read.

I live just south of Erie in the middle of the snow belt, We've had a foot of snow on the roads already this season.  The tires are Trailcutter MT google them, they work great my dad ran a set on his '98 GMC 3500 in loadrange E and it went everywhere even in 2wd the last couple winters.  They are by far the best tire I've run in the winter.