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Snorkel finished...heavy photos...
« on: December 02, 2007, 11:38:53 PM »
I decided to go ahead and snorkel.  I thought it would be a good addition with the new injectors, and help with the steam stalling I get when hitting deep water too fast.

I wanted to keep the K&N and almost didnt because I couldnt come up with a good canister.  I ended up using the ammo can I mentioned before...like a true Marine, LOL.

It might look like hell under the hood, but it works great!  And, if I ever decide to remove the snorkel,  I can use the ammo can for "under hood" storage.  I drove it around for awhile and the ammo can was just barely warm to the touch.  The white wrap you see is boiler pipe wrap.  It keeps the black, steel Rocket intake pipe from heating up over the engine and further heating the intake air...works very well.  BTW, cost was about $60 bucks not counting the new hole saw I bought.

Anyway, you guys can add your thoughts and opinions... dont worry, Im a big boy, I can take it.  Heres a look-see:

















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Re: Snorkel finished...heavy photos...
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2007, 06:10:30 AM »
looks nice. and for $60 who can resist.
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Re: Snorkel finished...heavy photos...
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2007, 06:21:53 AM »
Interesting, but you created a "trap" in your snorkle. The snorkle pipe should be level or rising from the intake, never dip down and come back up.
Chuck P
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Re: Snorkel finished...heavy photos...
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2007, 08:19:01 AM »
Interesting, but you created a "trap" in your snorkle. The snorkle pipe should be level or rising from the intake, never dip down and come back up.

Thats why theres a clamped elbow coming out of the hood. ...so I can change the snorkel without tearing it all out.  There wasnt any place open to get the right angled piece there when I was almost done last night.  Its not a 90 or a 45 and I didnt have a 22.5.

 Funny you mention that though, a buddy and I were talking about that and how the aftermarket snorkels mount.  When installed, dont they run down below the stock air box to the fender and then back up to the windshield... making kind of a large trap?

Anyway, Im going to work on that today, and also see if I can find a better scoop for the top...

Thanks for the comments

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Re: Snorkel finished...heavy photos...
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2007, 09:07:36 AM »
Interesting, but you created a "trap" in your snorkle. The snorkle pipe should be level or rising from the intake, never dip down and come back up.

Thats why theres a clamped elbow coming out of the hood. ...so I can change the snorkel without tearing it all out.  There wasnt any place open to get the right angled piece there when I was almost done last night.  Its not a 90 or a 45 and I didnt have a 22.5.

 Funny you mention that though, a buddy and I were talking about that and how the aftermarket snorkels mount.  When installed, dont they run down below the stock air box to the fender and then back up to the windshield... making kind of a large trap?

Anyway, Im going to work on that today, and also see if I can find a better scoop for the top...

Thanks for the comments

Most of that aftermarket stuff is for show and has no way to drain the dirt and condensation from the low spots.

Might want to consider a filter at the inlet, which will prefilter the air and cut down on the crap that will wind up in the tube.
Chuck P
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Re: Snorkel finished...heavy photos...
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2007, 09:15:57 AM »
Roger that...

I was just looking at it again in the daylight, and Im not satisified with the whole outer piece.  Called my muffler guy and he's going to bend a piece for me.  So Im going to do that and change the inlet as well...

Thanks for the tips Oldjeep

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Re: Snorkel finished...heavy photos...
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2007, 09:39:39 AM »
Most of that aftermarket stuff is for show and has no way to drain the dirt and condensation from the low spots.

My understanding was that the ARB one was pretty good...  Was I mislead?
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Re: Snorkel finished...heavy photos...
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2007, 10:24:31 AM »
Most of that aftermarket stuff is for show and has no way to drain the dirt and condensation from the low spots.

My understanding was that the ARB one was pretty good...  Was I mislead?

good for what?  A snorkel on a gas motor is only good for 2 things. 
1) Getting the air intake up higher and theoretically out of the dust.
2) Keep you from catching a splash into the air intake.


Your motor is most likely going to be dead if you ever drive into intake high water.  If it isn't then your tranny, tcase and diffs are going to be full of water anyway - unless you raised all those vents higher.  If you havn't got a diesel you are not going to be fording water with your motor submerged.

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Re: Snorkel finished...heavy photos...
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2007, 01:30:22 PM »
Oldjeep,

I have seen many YJ's and TJ's crossing deep rivers and not die...  So I know they can make deep crossings.  Of course, after those trips, you will ussually need to change out all the fluids, and that is logical and understandable, but just because the water is deep does not mean the engine compartment is completely flooded because there is always a bubble in the engine compartment.

Now, I agree with you that a snorkel does not make an engine submersible, and that besides what you mentioned, other things can be totaled (like the computer for one!), but my point is that a snorkel does make deeper water fording possible (although not necessarily advisable).

For example, this Jeep crossed a river I would not dare to cross without a snorkel (this one belongs to a friend, and it is a 4.0L crossing in 2H).  This crossing was made twice in that day (going and coming back), and no mechanical damage was done to the engine (mind you all fluids were changed afterwards).  I DO have to admit the the computer died about a week later (going back to my comment about a snorkel not making a Jeep waterproof!), but it was the only jeep to suffer any problems (many others crossed as well).

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Re: Snorkel finished...heavy photos...
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2007, 01:51:57 PM »
Felipe,

Did you mean to post a picture? 

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Re: Snorkel finished...heavy photos...
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2007, 02:19:26 PM »
Im scrapping 90% of that system and going with something(hopefully) a little simpler.... maybe taking out that ammo box/gerbil cage.  I got a pipe bet at the muffler shop today for the snorkel.

BTW - the reasons for this particular snorkel is to keep the engine from sputtering/stalling from steam under the hood cause by water hitting the hot engine pretty fast, its very sandy & dusty here, and to perhaps get slightly cooler air to the engine... plus Im bored and pretty much caught up on my honey-do-list...


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Re: Snorkel finished...heavy photos...
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2007, 04:01:56 PM »
If you drive in the dust a farm tractor pre filter/ cyclone filter is a good way to top the snorkel. It will keep rain out and pre filter most dust out works well on heavy equipment and farm tractors and looks pretty clean. I have seen those on some of the snorkels that people run in a desert environment
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omnisi

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Re: Snorkel finished...heavy photos...
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2007, 05:50:26 PM »
Can you post a like to one...Im not familiar with those.

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New snorkel design...pics
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2007, 06:07:29 PM »
I couldnt live with the gerbil cage ammo box so I modified and simplified it.  Works great and cost less too.  This one was MUCH easier: