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Offline neale_rs

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Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« on: January 08, 2008, 04:24:03 PM »

Does anyone here have experience with these tires?  Do they work well both on and off road like the manufacturer claims?

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Re: Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2008, 04:57:57 PM »
TSL's work great offroad, but are pretty loud and hard to ballance on the road.  If you are looking for something to put on a daily driven rig you would probabally be happier with a set of Swamper Truxus MT, Mikey Thompson MTZ or Goodyear MTR.
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Re: Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2008, 06:24:07 PM »
we have ss tsls on our cj3a they are amazing in the mud but wear down fast if driven onroad. and they get eaten up preaty bad by rocks if you go to the mountains.
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Re: Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2008, 09:14:41 AM »
I typically put only about 1000 miles a year on my YJ and it gets driven once a week either to go to a trail or just a bit around town to make sure the battery is charged.  The drives to the trails can sometimes be a few hours long on the highway.  Does is sound like the TSL Radials would be a good choice?

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Re: Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2008, 09:26:44 AM »
I typically put only about 1000 miles a year on my YJ and it gets driven once a week either to go to a trail or just a bit around town to make sure the battery is charged.  The drives to the trails can sometimes be a few hours long on the highway.  Does is sound like the TSL Radials would be a good choice?

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For that kind of use, they should be fine.
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Re: Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2008, 10:54:01 AM »
Sounds good.  Thanks to all for the input.
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Re: Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2008, 11:12:47 AM »
Sounds good.  Thanks to all for the input.

I'd take a look at using Dynabeads to balance them:   They work wonders for hard to balance tires.

I've got 6 oz of them in my current 35" tires and they work great
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Re: Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2008, 11:59:20 AM »
Looks good, thanks for pointing me to them.
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Re: Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2008, 08:47:48 PM »
 I ran Swamper 33x10.50 TSL radials for several years.
They were loud, and when new I could feel every lug contacting the road. I didn't have any problems on the road and I used my YJ as a daily driver the first two years I had the the TSLs.
You couldn't beat the traction in snow, mud and even on rocks the lugs would grab and pull you up and over.

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Re: Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2008, 08:34:14 AM »
Sounds like a good tire then and not too expensive.  How do they compare with the BFG MTs?
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Re: Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2008, 02:07:59 PM »
Sounds like a good tire then and not too expensive.  How do they compare with the BFG MTs?

They don't.  They're two completely different.

The TSL is a bias ply tire which means it's very thick and will build up heat faster then a radial.  When in cold weather the bias ply tires will get flat spots overnight.  It will take a while for them to heat up enough to go round again.  With a lot of street use, you can expect to see 14-20K miles out of them.  Once you move up to >35 they get harder to balance especially on steel wheels.  Dynabeads, golfballs, BB's, etc...   The TSL's are all about offroad.

BFG MT's are for those who want their cake and eat it too.  It's a compromise.  You can expect to see 40-50K miles from a MT and they do well for most moderate trails.  Their weak side is the sidewalls.  They are fairly thin compared to many other dedicated MT's. They ride nice for those times when you have to drive it onroad, easy to balance and they are quiet as well.

If you're only doing 1000 miles a year though, you would probably have more to worry about dry-rot then the tires wearing out.
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Re: Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2008, 02:28:16 PM »


But I'm looking into the TSL Radials.  I have heard they are a bit better than the bias ply version for on-road. A lot of jeepers here locally run the BFG MTs and like them a lot but I would like something different.

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Re: Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2008, 05:17:53 PM »


But I'm looking into the TSL Radials.  I have heard they are a bit better than the bias ply version for on-road. A lot of jeepers here locally run the BFG MTs and like them a lot but I would like something different.


Missed that part...

The Radials aren't much better then the bias ply.  If it's not a daily driver and you're going to and from the trail only (and it's not far), I'd go with the TSL bias ply.
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Re: Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2008, 07:33:59 AM »
Thanks Jeffy.  Your last comment is making me reconsider my initial choice, maybe it will be based on price in the end.
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Re: Opinions on Super Swamper TSL Radials
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2008, 08:39:01 AM »
Thanks Jeffy.  Your last comment is making me reconsider my initial choice, maybe it will be based on price in the end.

If you live and drive where it gets cold, you will definitely be able to tell the difference between the swamper radials and bias ply.
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