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Re: Tranny not Trany
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2008, 05:20:54 PM »
I changed my fluid and had brass "glitter" everywhere. I replaced it and the noise quieted down some and all other gears shifted much smoother. Now there is a new problem. When I'm in first or reverse there is no initial noise, but when i press the clutch in while still in gear it makes an odd sound. It sounds like there would be a rock inside tumbling around. This only happens in first and reverse. Any ideas? :confused:
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2008, 09:07:18 PM »
my guess would be bad bearing that puts play in 1st and revers so when under power it turns round but when not under power its free to wable.... jsut my thought.. iv never seen the inside of an ax5 to specifically know what im talking about.
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Re: Tranny not Trany
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2008, 08:21:39 AM »
Can´t imagine how a lube change could cause something like that.  Did you fill through the real fill hole?  It is hard to find on the passenger side.  A lot of AX5 owners use the torx plug on the driver's side because it is easier to find but that plug should not be removed because it holds a metal ball in place.
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2008, 08:35:02 AM »
Quote from: neale_rs on January 30, 2008, 08:21:39 AM
Can´t imagine how a lube change could cause something like that.  Did you fill through the real fill hole?  It is hard to find on the passenger side.  A lot of AX5 owners use the torx plug on the driver's side because it is easier to find but that plug should not be removed because it holds a metal ball in place.

No, I removed the torx bolt on the drivers side.  :stick: I'm thinking of just going with another transmission. I want to get awy from ax5 just not sure which route to take. :puzzled:
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Re: Tranny not Trany
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2008, 08:54:00 AM »
I used the torx plug the first time and it results in a lower lube level than the real fill hole.  Maybe the noise is caused by that. Good luck.
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Re: Tranny not Trany
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2008, 09:01:05 AM »
Mine was not a torx head at all...  Are you sure you used the right fill hole?  The diagram I had on hand when I did the change was not so clear in pointing it out...
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2008, 09:11:47 AM »
Quote from: jfrabat on January 30, 2008, 09:01:05 AM
Mine was not a torx head at all...  Are you sure you used the right fill hole?  The diagram I had on hand when I did the change was not so clear in pointing it out...

It was a torx. I guy I know informed me that it "must be" the fill hole. This is turning out to be PITA!
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Re: Tranny not Trany
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2008, 09:36:07 AM »
Mine had the drain plug (hex), a torx one that said "DO NOT REMOVE" and another hex for the fill hole...
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Re: Tranny not Trany
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2008, 09:51:29 AM »
Quote from: jfrabat on January 30, 2008, 09:36:07 AM
Mine had the drain plug (hex), a torx one that said "DO NOT REMOVE" and another hex for the fill hole...

The one I removed probably said "DO NOT REMOVE" knowing my luck! It looks like the previous owner put a pipe wrench on it and I cant make out anything. It was on the drivers side about in the middle of the transmission.
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Re: Tranny not Trany
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2008, 09:56:03 AM »
The torx is the wrong one and results in a low lube level.  I ran it like that for a few miles and was lucky someone mentioned that the correct fill hole was on the other side.  I checked the level and ended up putting in at least another quart.
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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2008, 10:04:32 AM »
Quote from: neale_rs on January 30, 2008, 09:56:03 AM
The torx is the wrong one and results in a low lube level.  I ran it like that for a few miles and was lucky someone mentioned that the correct fill hole was on the other side.  I checked the level and ended up putting in at least another quart.

How many quarts should it take?
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Re: Tranny not Trany
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2008, 10:24:39 AM »
Quote from: enginethatcould on January 30, 2008, 10:04:32 AM
How many quarts should it take?

According to the FSM it takes 7 pints (3.5 quarts)
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Re: Tranny not Trany
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2008, 02:24:51 PM »
THat's what mine took in...
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Re: Tranny not Trany
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2008, 04:25:10 PM »
As others have noted the Torx plug is NOT a fill hole. 

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Re: Tranny not Trany
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2008, 06:47:54 AM »
Afetr doing some research, I agree with Jeffy and I'm not going to rebuild the ax5. I decided to do a AX15 conversion and I'm about ready to start collecting parts. I have a few questions I'm still not sure about. Does the donor vehicle of the ax15 have to be off a 4wd? Also, how many miles does the average AX15 go for? Thank you all for all your help! If anyone would like to try this conversion here is a link that I found that makes seem to be pretty moderate.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=181361&highlight=ax15+swap&page=1
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