Author Topic: installed new trans. some small problems  (Read 2413 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline dexetr30

  • 4BangerJP.comŽ Donator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1261
  • Aloha Mr. Hand!
installed new trans. some small problems
« on: December 08, 2008, 02:04:49 PM »
I installed the new trans today. Took it for it's first ride and the check engine light came on immediately. It's throwing a code 37. I know this is either a short or open circuit on the torque converter. What plug on the trans controls the torque converter? Also, it's shifting late. around 2700-2800. What's causing this? Do I need to possibly adjust the throttle cable or kick-down? Some help a.s.a.p. would be greatly appreciated. Tomorrow is the last day I have to work on it.  ;)
02 2.5.L automatic: 4.0L t.b., 4.0l air intake, K&N filter, Scream'n Demon coil, 8.5mm MSD Super Conductor plug wires, Stage 1 Jet Chip, 29" BFG all terrain KO's. Taurus E-fan, Hummer front bumper, Skyjacker high capacity trans pan, 48" hi-lift, Rubi susp w. 3/4" BB.

Offline dexetr30

  • 4BangerJP.comŽ Donator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1261
  • Aloha Mr. Hand!
Re: installed new trans. some small problems
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2008, 03:12:08 PM »
One thing I forgot to mention... the torque converter is locking and unlocking when it's supposed to.
02 2.5.L automatic: 4.0L t.b., 4.0l air intake, K&N filter, Scream'n Demon coil, 8.5mm MSD Super Conductor plug wires, Stage 1 Jet Chip, 29" BFG all terrain KO's. Taurus E-fan, Hummer front bumper, Skyjacker high capacity trans pan, 48" hi-lift, Rubi susp w. 3/4" BB.

Offline aw12345

  • Member
  • Posts: 3065
    • my jeep picture page
Re: installed new trans. some small problems
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2008, 06:17:38 PM »
Start with the kickdown cable open the throttle all the way and push in the locking tab for the kickdown cable so it slides where it needs to be. After that do the diagnostic routine for that particular code.
Will see later tonight if I can find that for you. Right now I got my Jeep all torn apart to get my trilink install finished and rework the exhaust so it will clear and stop making noise
2006 Jeep Wrangler TJ SE
2004 Jeep Wrangler TJ SE

Offline dexetr30

  • 4BangerJP.comŽ Donator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1261
  • Aloha Mr. Hand!
Re: installed new trans. some small problems
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2008, 08:26:53 PM »
I narrowed down the late shifting to the TV cable. I'm going to have to readjust it. The only problem I'm having is that the linkage is I have is not what's shown in my Haynes manual. I'll have to take some time tomorrow and figure it all out.

Here's what I came up with for code 37:

Relationship between engine speed and vehicle speed indicates no torque converter clutch engagement. Auto. only.

and/or... An open or shorted condition detected in the torque converter part throttle unlock solenoid control circuit. (3 speed auto RH trans. Only).

Incorrect input state detected for the Park/Neutral switch. Auto. only.

Again, I'll have to take a look tomorrow when I more time and see what may be the trouble. I'm thinking it's a damaged plug on the trans where the wire harness plugs in. something didn't quite seem right when I plugged it back in.
02 2.5.L automatic: 4.0L t.b., 4.0l air intake, K&N filter, Scream'n Demon coil, 8.5mm MSD Super Conductor plug wires, Stage 1 Jet Chip, 29" BFG all terrain KO's. Taurus E-fan, Hummer front bumper, Skyjacker high capacity trans pan, 48" hi-lift, Rubi susp w. 3/4" BB.

Offline dexetr30

  • 4BangerJP.comŽ Donator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1261
  • Aloha Mr. Hand!
Re: installed new trans. some small problems
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2008, 09:12:22 AM »
Ok, kick down/tv cable is adjusted. Still throwing a code 37. Like I said though, the torque converter is working properly as is the kick-down function now. I am a bit stumped on this one.

 While I was adjusting things I found a small leak coming from what I believe to be the trans temp sensor. I have it outlined in the photo below. Am I right in thinking that this is the temp sensor for the trans? Anyone know if this is a dealer only part or can I pick it up elsewhere? It's leaking between the outer metal threaded section and the inner plastic housing. It looks like the plastic housing is cracked. It's a small leak, nothing big but I would like to replace it real soon.
02 2.5.L automatic: 4.0L t.b., 4.0l air intake, K&N filter, Scream'n Demon coil, 8.5mm MSD Super Conductor plug wires, Stage 1 Jet Chip, 29" BFG all terrain KO's. Taurus E-fan, Hummer front bumper, Skyjacker high capacity trans pan, 48" hi-lift, Rubi susp w. 3/4" BB.

Offline oldjeep

  • Member
  • Posts: 1800
    • www.Oldjeep.com
Re: installed new trans. some small problems
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2008, 09:23:35 AM »
That's the neutral switch
Chuck P
The clowns'? Oh, yeah, the clowns. We fight them too — entire armies, spilling out of Volkswagons. We do our best to fight them off, but they keep sending 'em in!
94 YJ - gone
98 ZJ - sons truck
97 TJ - daughters project

www.oldjeep.com

Offline oldjeep

  • Member
  • Posts: 1800
    • www.Oldjeep.com
Re: installed new trans. some small problems
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2008, 09:28:31 AM »
In that picture, what is the deal with the cable coming out the back?  Looks broken.
Chuck P
The clowns'? Oh, yeah, the clowns. We fight them too — entire armies, spilling out of Volkswagons. We do our best to fight them off, but they keep sending 'em in!
94 YJ - gone
98 ZJ - sons truck
97 TJ - daughters project

www.oldjeep.com

Offline dexetr30

  • 4BangerJP.comŽ Donator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1261
  • Aloha Mr. Hand!
Re: installed new trans. some small problems
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2008, 09:46:05 AM »
If your talking about what's outlined in red... I was told it's the wire that controls the locking converter. When I had the pan off I could see two wires running from inside the trans that lead directly to the torque converter solenoid.

If that's the neutral switch then I figured out the code it's throwing. Thanks for the help oldjeep.  :biggrin:

37   

    * An open or shorted condition detected in the torque converter part throttle unlock solenoid control circuit. (3 speed auto RH trans. Only).
    * Incorrect input state detected for the Park/Neutral switch. Auto. only.
02 2.5.L automatic: 4.0L t.b., 4.0l air intake, K&N filter, Scream'n Demon coil, 8.5mm MSD Super Conductor plug wires, Stage 1 Jet Chip, 29" BFG all terrain KO's. Taurus E-fan, Hummer front bumper, Skyjacker high capacity trans pan, 48" hi-lift, Rubi susp w. 3/4" BB.

Offline dexetr30

  • 4BangerJP.comŽ Donator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1261
  • Aloha Mr. Hand!
Re: installed new trans. some small problems
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2008, 01:15:45 PM »
Oops, forgot the picture. Busy day.
Torque converter lock-up plug. It's not broken.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2008, 01:16:50 PM by dexetr30 »
02 2.5.L automatic: 4.0L t.b., 4.0l air intake, K&N filter, Scream'n Demon coil, 8.5mm MSD Super Conductor plug wires, Stage 1 Jet Chip, 29" BFG all terrain KO's. Taurus E-fan, Hummer front bumper, Skyjacker high capacity trans pan, 48" hi-lift, Rubi susp w. 3/4" BB.

Offline dexetr30

  • 4BangerJP.comŽ Donator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1261
  • Aloha Mr. Hand!
Re: installed new trans. some small problems
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2008, 01:23:08 PM »
I stopped by the dealership and picked up a new neutral switch for $17.76. It's going to have to wait until the weekend to get replaced. I just don't have the time or energy to replace it until then.
02 2.5.L automatic: 4.0L t.b., 4.0l air intake, K&N filter, Scream'n Demon coil, 8.5mm MSD Super Conductor plug wires, Stage 1 Jet Chip, 29" BFG all terrain KO's. Taurus E-fan, Hummer front bumper, Skyjacker high capacity trans pan, 48" hi-lift, Rubi susp w. 3/4" BB.

Offline aw12345

  • Member
  • Posts: 3065
    • my jeep picture page
Re: installed new trans. some small problems
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2008, 03:58:56 PM »
Since the torque converter clutch works properly, the problem is either a faulty or incorrectly adjusted park neutral switch. incorrect input output state of the switch. It being cracked could cause it or something else related to it would be nice to hookup a scanner and check the positions of the switch when moving the gear selector
2006 Jeep Wrangler TJ SE
2004 Jeep Wrangler TJ SE

Offline dexetr30

  • 4BangerJP.comŽ Donator
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1261
  • Aloha Mr. Hand!
Re: installed new trans. some small problems
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2008, 06:02:18 PM »
It's definitely the neutral switch. I had to use the impact gun to remove it from the old transmission because whoever installed it didn't use anti-seize compound on the threads. The threads are aluminum and so is the trans case. It seized up and wouldn't come out any other way. When I took it out I cracked the plastic around the plug and it's now leaking. I probably cracked one of the internal connectors along with it and it's causing it to throw a code. I picked a new one up at the dealership cheap today so I'll install it over the coming weekend.
02 2.5.L automatic: 4.0L t.b., 4.0l air intake, K&N filter, Scream'n Demon coil, 8.5mm MSD Super Conductor plug wires, Stage 1 Jet Chip, 29" BFG all terrain KO's. Taurus E-fan, Hummer front bumper, Skyjacker high capacity trans pan, 48" hi-lift, Rubi susp w. 3/4" BB.