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Offline smashcoast

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Got my new springs!
« on: December 15, 2008, 06:54:13 PM »
Ok I bought those 06' Rubicon springs and rear track bar bracket for $70 and now it's time to install them.

I already have the RE 2" BB and I am hoping for close to a 1" lift with these springs (they have  about 10,000 mi on them).

So will I need the rear trac bracket? I bought it so I want to put it on as long as it wont mess anything up.

Also I'm thinking I will have to do a TC Drop and should I buy a kit or do the whole New longer bolts and washer thing? I saw the write up on 4x4xplor. :guns:
« Last Edit: December 15, 2008, 06:54:57 PM by smashcoast »
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willbacker45

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Re: Got my new springs!
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2008, 05:52:12 AM »
dont waste ur money get grade 8 bolts and washers that way u can make it as small as possible, cause i think most of the kits are 1in.

Offline jagular7

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Re: Got my new springs!
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2008, 10:21:42 AM »
Ok I bought those 06' Rubicon springs and rear track bar bracket for $70 and now it's time to install them.

I already have the RE 2" BB and I am hoping for close to a 1" lift with these springs (they have  about 10,000 mi on them).

So will I need the rear trac bracket? I bought it so I want to put it on as long as it wont mess anything up.

Also I'm thinking I will have to do a TC Drop and should I buy a kit or do the whole New longer bolts and washer thing? I saw the write up on 4x4xplor. :guns:

The coils will be a direct swap. To determine how much lift, measure your coil height before you remove them. Then when you have the Rubi's in, do the same measurment. You should receive 1-1.5+" lift. So along with your 2" bb spacer lift, you may have to lower the tcase to minimize the vibes. Another option but may not eliminate the vibes, is to install adjustable control arms in both rear control arms (upper/lower) locations. If not both, then the top for sure. You can then adjust the pinion towards the rear output of the tcase. All this may eliminate the vibes, but it all about the condition and balance of the shaft and joints. You could also look at a 1" body lift and motor mount lift as well to 'tilt' the tcase output towards the pinion.

If you go with a mml, look at rubber mounts and not the polys. I've got polys for motor and trans mounts. There is lots of vibes transducing through the frame to the body mounts (also poly) to the floor.

What do you mean by track bar bracket?
When you lifted with the spacers, you pulled the axles to one side based on the rigid length of the track bar. The front axle should be closer to the driver's frame rail than the passenger's. Opposite for the rear axle (closer to the passenger side than the driver's.) Some spacer lift kits will give you a bracket that you add to the rear axle stock bracket to 'recenter' the axle under the frame as the result from the lift. The front, they would recommend redrilling the axle mount, but I wouldn't. I would spend a little more money for a adjustable track bar. The stock front track bar has a tie rod end on it and they will wear out.

Once all this is put together, you may be adding some rear shock brackets that extend the shock further off the axle. During articulation, the shock may come in contact with the coil mount on the axle. The bracket pushes the shock back farther thus providing clearance. I would also strongly suggest you look at adjustable and articulating control arms and track bars to complete the lift. Its not really necessary, but you will benefit from the articulaton of the axles with them. The stock control arms are pressed and venerable to fatigue and cracking. To add, the stock rubber bushings will get really soft and deform enough to make your handling not that great.

Post pics of the measurement and progress of the install.
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Offline smashcoast

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Re: Got my new springs!
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2008, 08:08:29 PM »
The rear track bar relocation bracket!

Should i get front and rear shock brackets? I'm going to be adding some quik disconnects also and probably some extended rear if you think I need them?

I'm looking at an adjustable front track bar along with heavy duty tie rod and drag link combo.

If i get an alignment  from a 4x4 shop will they center the axles  for me?
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Offline smashcoast

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Re: Got my new springs!
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2008, 08:20:12 PM »
Also if i do the TC drop will that fix the driveline vibes or can the axles not being right effect it too?

And thanks Jagular7
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Offline smashcoast

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Re: Got my new springs!
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2008, 08:19:42 PM »
I cant find shock extension brackets and do i need them for the front as well?

I found these are these a good idea http://www.quadratec.com/products/16311_43X_PG.htm.

Also do i need front bump stop extensions as well?

Would it be easier to get longer shocks?
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Offline jagular7

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Re: Got my new springs!
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2008, 10:34:07 AM »
You can really Just Empty Every Pocket for doing this swap. Each component influences another. I would just swap the coils and see what this gives you. For spending your money, I would suggest:

You have a vast amount of choises to make when searching for adjustable track bars, adjustable articulating control arms, and longer traveling shocks, 1" body lift, motor mount lift, flat belly skid plate, slip yoke eliminator (SYE), and larger tires w/proper offset wheels. Making choices will be more on cost and benefit for yourself.

Here are some info from Quadratec on other suggested items.
bar pin eliminators


Changing front shocks stud style shock to post style,



Rear shock extenders




Each component has its cost and benefits.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2008, 10:43:26 AM by jagular7 »
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