Topic: Decided against the thorntirds and am getting these instead...need advice

[JeffsJeep]

Hey guys, decided against the thorntirds as some of you called them.  Which is probably a good thing.  Anyway, I got a set of 255/75/17 rims and tires. BFG mud terrains. Practly brand new.  Am I going to need a 2 inch lift of 3 inch lift for these to look good.  As in good I mean not overly big, and not too small by them looking like doughnuts.  I am so excited to put them on but I need a lift first I think.
Thanks, Jeff

[Crunch]

That's about a 32" tire.....  It's possible, but not with stock suspension components or without cutting for clearance. (unless you want to stuff them under there, extend your bumpstops, and have no suspension travel).

Most people use a 2" budget boost which consists of spring spacers and new shocks to clear 32"s.  Then again, it's a skinny tire, and you really only need about an extra 1".   

What's the backspacing on those rims?

[Jesse-James]

2" budget boost, cheap and effective. Perfect height for 32-33's on a TJ.

[JeffsJeep]

I don't know the backspacing. The guy told me they came off his 09 Wrangler, stock rims and tires. Not even 1000 miles on them. Do you guys know the backspacing?

Edit: Also why is a 265 smaller than a 255? This is why I can't understand why companies just dont go with a 31, 32 etc. for tires.

[oldjeep]

If it's off an 09 the rims won't fit your jeep.  Wrong bolt pattern.  09 is 5 on 5 you have 5 on 4.5

[JeffsJeep]

Thats ok, I got them for dirt ass cheap anyway.  I will just buy some rims for the tires.  Anyway what do you guys think of this lift?  Or should I do the budget 2 inch boost like a nother member was saying?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__Jeep-Wrangler-TJ-3-LIFT-KIT-w-Pro-Comp-Shocks-97-06_W0QQitemZ250370113549QQadiZ2865QQadnZCarQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item250370113549&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A543%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Do I need transfercase spacers?  What about brake line extentions and other extentions?
Also so I need to find a set of rims that are 17" and that are a 5 on 4.5 bolt pattern and need to be how wide?  I'm new to this whole tire and rim thing so please don't flame me if I ask a dumb question, haha.

Thanks, Jeff

[oldjeep]

Thats ok, I got them for dirt ass cheap anyway.  I will just buy some rims for the tires.  Anyway what do you guys think of this lift?  Or should I do the budget 2 inch boost like a nother member was saying?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__Jeep-Wrangler-TJ-3-LIFT-KIT-w-Pro-Comp-Shocks-97-06_W0QQitemZ250370113549QQadiZ2865QQadnZCarQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item250370113549&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A543%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Do I need transfercase spacers?  What about brake line extentions and other extentions?
Also so I need to find a set of rims that are 17" and that are a 5 on 4.5 bolt pattern and need to be how wide?  I'm new to this whole tire and rim thing so please don't flame me if I ask a dumb question, haha.

Thanks, Jeff

That is just a budget 3" lift, nothing but pucks.  If you're going to spend some money, get some replacement coils rather than 3" pucks - it'll ride better.

17" rims with 32" tires is a street setup, not a lot of sidewall height.  If you air down offroad, expect rim damage.

[JeffsJeep]

I'm not going to be doing any hardcore offroading.  Just maybe some mudding, I hate rocks.

Anyway, where is this 2 inch budget boost jesse james was telling me about? Is it coils or spacers?

Also I am having a hard time finding the right bolt pattern for my 00 in a 17 inch rim. Everywhere I look, the 17's are for 07 - 09 wranglers with the different bolt pattern.  Have I screwed myself over by buying these tires by not being able to find rims for them?

[oldjeep]

I'm not going to be doing any hardcore offroading.  Just maybe some mudding, I hate rocks.

Anyway, where is this 2 inch budget boost jesse james was telling me about? Is it coils or spacers?

Also I am having a hard time finding the right bolt pattern for my 00 in a 17 inch rim. Everywhere I look, the 17's are for 07 - 09 wranglers with the different bolt pattern.  Have I screwed myself over by buying these tires by not being able to find rims for them?

2" BB is just pucks.  17" rim is scary big for a small pattern wheel, but I'm sure someone makes them since GC's had that pattern for a while and I've seen big gay chrome rims on those.  If not, they make spacer/adapters so you can use the wheels you already bought.  If you go that way make sure you check both sets of lugs frequently (need to take off the wheels to check the inner set.)

[oldjeep]

These are the type of adapters you would need
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&refid=store&item=260286594774&category=42614&viewitem=

[aw12345]

Well Jeff there is always another option, put the tires you bought on Craiglist. with some luck you make some extra money of them then buy a set of bfg at or someting like that 31x10.5s will fit your stock rims and don't really need a lift and wheel pretty well. Not the best for mud but a good all around on and offroad  tire

[Crunch]

Adapters/Spacers would work, just keep in mind shops like Discount Tire may not want to work on the Jeep after.  They see them as a liability.

[JeffsJeep]

Thanks to everyone who gave me input.  This is such a great site with such great informational people.  I don't know what I'd do without you guys!   I think I might try to do the spacers, the only question I still have is the best route would be the 2 inch BB for a lift?  You don't need t-case spacers or any other extnetions for brakes and such?  Also after I put the spacers on with whichever lift I choose, the tires arent going to rub on my flairs since they are going to stick out further?  Also oldjeep, why would you recommend checking the lugs frequiently? Is this because the spacers could come loose?

[oldjeep]

Thanks to everyone who gave me input.  This is such a great site with such great informational people.  I don't know what I'd do without you guys!   I think I might try to do the spacers, the only question I still have is the best route would be the 2 inch BB for a lift?  You don't need t-case spacers or any other extnetions for brakes and such?  Also after I put the spacers on with whichever lift I choose, the tires arent going to rub on my flairs since they are going to stick out further?  Also oldjeep, why would you recommend checking the lugs frequiently? Is this because the spacers could come loose?

Because spacers do loosen, and you can't see it when the inner lugs are loose.

[aw12345]

For the brake hoses in the front its very easy to extend them loosen the bracket on the frame make a small extension bracket that moves the hose down on the frame another 1 to 1/12" and it will easily clear a 4" lift that flexes well. Also if you do use the spacers could use loctite on the lugnuts that hold them onto the hubs/ original wheel studs