Topic: 8.8 tech

[drunkencityworker]

OK Well its time to start getting the pieces together for a regear and I figure while in there why not Make my 8.8 the best it could be.


1. Does anyone run c clip eliminators? I am not sure but I believe using stock 9 inch parts elimination of c clips will give you worry free full floater action. without having to woryy about axles wondering out the tubes.

2. Does anyone run chromo?  Or is chromo complete overkill with the 8.8?

3. What kind of rear traction device should I use? Spool,welded? Can a lsd be welded? Has anyone stuffed the clutch packs? How hard is the detroit on the street? Or is this one place where I need to bite the bullet and pick up a selectable?

I use my yj as a daily driver and I wheel once a month in all different enviroments. The most tho at cliffs insane terrain. mucky hill climbs

and gullies

[Jesse-James]

You'll be fine on stock shafts, especially with the 4 banger.

No way to make an 8.8 a FF axle.

It's a good idea to weld the tubes to the center section.

I am very happy with my Detroit. Doesn't get much better unless you go with a selectable which I don't feel is necessary in the rear.

[sharpxmen]

2. Does anyone run chromo?  Or is chromo complete overkill with the 8.8?

dunno if it's overkill or not but chromos are probably the strongest, so if you plan to get new shafts the price diff is not that much and imo it's worth it (at least in my case on the D35 there was an $80 difference between high strength steel and chromo axles)

3. What kind of rear traction device should I use? Spool,welded? Can a lsd be welded?

depending how the lsd is built. Most of them i would guess you cannot weld - my auburn has the spider gears just like an open diff so in that case you could put weld on the teeth but i would suggest against that (wouldn't be too good for a DD).

Does yours already have an lsd on it?

[dwtaylorpdx]

Since the 8.8 has the same size outer axle tube as a 44 (The disk brake bracket from an explorer fits the 44)

Has anybody tried putting a 44 full floater kit on it? Worst case you'd have to order a pair of custom axles with the correct splines on each end. 

Dave

[Jeffy]

Since the 8.8 has the same size outer axle tube as a 44 (The disk brake bracket from an explorer fits the 44)

Has anybody tried putting a 44 full floater kit on it? Worst case you'd have to order a pair of custom axles with the correct splines on each end. 

Dave

Not to get too side tracked but the 8.8" uses the same flange bolt pattern as the 44?

Also, since Full-Floater kits aren't the current fad, complete kits are hard to locate.  I've thought about getting one.  The Full-Floater kit not a 8.8".

[drunkencityworker]

OK.. It is lsd. The tubes are welded.
I can always goto junkyard and pull an open carrier.
Has anyone stuffed the clutch packs in a lsd.
Does anyone run a lunchbox style locker

[Jesse-James]

I'd drop coin on a manual hub conversion before attempting a FF kit.

[aw12345]

If you are going to spend the money and drive on snow and ice, skip the the detroit idea, use an Ox or ARB if you can afford it, you will be much happier, for the axle shafts get chromos if you can afford it. That way no need for anything else fancy and will definitely hold up to your wheeling and make you a very happy man.
Stock axle shafts don't flex much and tend to shatter, whereas a good chromo shaft twists and then returns to it's original shape. As for the detroits even though they are an excellent locker, it's street manners even though acceptable to some, aren't really all that great. My yellow Jeep has ARB's and the other one I acquired has detroits, now if you like your Jeep to lift the left rear corner and barking tires and other funny stuff when you drive on wet pavement or snow and ice go detroit, if you like it to behave the way it did when it was stock buy an ARB or an OX locker. With those 2 mods you wheel happily and don't need anything else, save maybe for a truss for the rear axle so you will not bend the tubes

[dwtaylorpdx]

I'd drop coin on a manual hub conversion before attempting a FF kit.

The manual hub kit is a full floater... :)

The 44 Floater kit uses the spindles off a Front D44 axle and standard hubs or drive plates.

Dave

[Jesse-James]

now if you like your Jeep to lift the left rear corner and barking tires and other funny stuff when you drive on wet pavement or snow and ice go detroit

I live in the salt belt and experience none of these issues, can hardly tell it's back there.

[dwtaylorpdx]

Its all driving style, some habits make the Detroit bark, some dont.

I personally hated driving rigs with them so I went ARB, others wouldn't have it any other way...

Dave

[jfrabat]

What locker is better is like asking what color is prettier; but one thing everyone will agree on is that selectable lockers are literally invisible when unlocked (they literally ARE open diffs - in most cases - when unlocked).

[Jesse-James]

Red is purdiest.

[aw12345]

It is all a matter of what you want to life with and what you can afford. If you like the way it drives stock and have the extra couple of hundred dollars scour ebay for a deal on a ARB or an Ox. If you want to save a couple of hundred dollars, don't mind some funny road manners and like simplicity go detroit they all deliver the goods locked.
I personally favor the selectable lockers for a daily driver

[oldjeep]

OK.. It is lsd. The tubes are welded.
I can always goto junkyard and pull an open carrier.
Has anyone stuffed the clutch packs in a lsd.
Does anyone run a lunchbox style locker

I run an Aussie locker in mine and I'm very happy with it.  I live where there is snow and ice, I'm convinced that the people who complain about automatic lockers on the road have just never figured out how to drive with them.  I don't notice it's there.

Running 35's, heavy wheels and having an agressive driving style I havn't managed to break anything in the 8.8 yet.  My 8.8 is stock shafts with the tubes welded to the pumpkin.

My 8.8 and aussie stand up to doing stuff like this all day long.  The D30 with aussie is also very happy and not breaking - but it did require alloy shafts and superjoints to survive.