Topic: Gearing Opinions

[sharpxmen]

i was asking if i regear to 4.56 if it will reduce the strain on the engine with the added 32s as opposed to not regearing and puttin on the 32s. if i upgrade, im looking for the best possible gearing that overall doesnt put a strain on the engine..so i dont consume more etc.

so i got it backwards, but the answer is still relevant - but you have an auto and i didn't think of that when i posted, i was thinking of a manual which is quite different, so to tell you the truth dunno which way would strain the engine less in your case.

[stan98tj]

ok, so if not 4.56 due to my 3 spd and lack of overdrive...should i just stick to throwing on 32s and calling it good or is there another gearing option? certainly dont wanna throw on the 32s and bog down..or regear and feel underpowered. would an auto tranny for the 2.5 with an overdrive be a better base to start? my tranny is showin age so i was plannin on either rebuilding or swappin a new one in. id def like to regear and it will prob be on a 3 spd auto...

[Jeffy]

I second the 5:13s and also running 4.88's and it made a huge improvement but could always use more right 5:13's!!!!

Stan is running an AUTO not a manual which means his final gearing is 1:1.  5.13's would kill his highway driving.

[aw12345]

Stan, stick the tires on if it feels like it bogs down to much regear. Conneticut is pretty flat and so is Long Island so most likely it will be fine. Other choice is 33" tires and 4,56
That would make a pretty sweet setup for your auto

[stan98tj]

Stan, stick the tires on if it feels like it bogs down to much regear. Conneticut is pretty flat and so is Long Island so most likely it will be fine. Other choice is 33" tires and 4,56
That would make a pretty sweet setup for your auto

wanted to stay with 32s cause the 2.5" lift i have is rated for em..im afraid if i go up to 33s ill bite into the fenders or rub too much-either way it would kill the clearance. where i live isnt all mountainous or anything, but we have a fair amount of hills...mostly long gradual rises, and a few steep hills scattered about (i currently live on one.) SO if i go up to 32s and it DOES bog down, then my regear option would be to go to 4.56?? or i could skip the guess work throw on 33s and go with 4.56s-that set up is rated for something like a 33? In that case maybe a bodylift would take care of the clearance issue....

[aw12345]

Yup 1" body lift and maybe a little longer bump stops in the front will take care of the clearance

[stan98tj]

ok this def has me flip floppin...why did u have to bring up 33s art? lol.
anyway i def want to see my entire options though.
i have a 3spd auto. i want 32s. its a daily driver and sees a good amount of highway driving. terrain around me gets hilly in spots-some are steep. my wheeling terrain is def hilly with loose ground, im gonna need as much torque as possible...what are my options??

last thing...tranny is old so i was considering replacing it with prob another 3spd auto...BUT in 03 or 04 they added an overdrive to the auto trany...maybe i can swap one of those in...will that provide me with better regearing options?

if there are no options for 32s...i guess ill bite the bullet for 33s

[aw12345]

On your trans figure out how to properly adjust the bands and the kickdown. Makes a world of difference. The older Chrysler transmissions are pretty tough.
With an auto wheeling should be pretty easy in low range the torque converter help low en torque in low range a lot. Should wheel just fine with 33's and 4.56 gears I think that would make a pretty nice setup for you

[stan98tj]

On your trans figure out how to properly adjust the bands and the kickdown. Makes a world of difference. The older Chrysler transmissions are pretty tough.
With an auto wheeling should be pretty easy in low range the torque converter help low en torque in low range a lot. Should wheel just fine with 33's and 4.56 gears I think that would make a pretty nice setup for you
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i take it you dont see 32s as an option for me art? i could always upgrade to a rough country 3.25" or 3.75" lift for less than 400 bucks....still wanna see if anyone else thinks 32s may still be an option before i make a decision.
How slow would i be and how bad would i suck gas down if i go to 33s and 4.56?

[Jeffy]

ok this def has me flip floppin...why did u have to bring up 33s art? lol.
anyway i def want to see my entire options though.
i have a 3spd auto. i want 32s. its a daily driver and sees a good amount of highway driving. terrain around me gets hilly in spots-some are steep. my wheeling terrain is def hilly with loose ground, im gonna need as much torque as possible...what are my options??

last thing...tranny is old so i was considering replacing it with prob another 3spd auto...BUT in 03 or 04 they added an overdrive to the auto trany...maybe i can swap one of those in...will that provide me with better regearing options?

if there are no options for 32s...i guess ill bite the bullet for 33s

The 30RH is a really tough transmission.  Actually both the 32RH and the 30RH are stronger then their manual counterparts.  I don't think there has been any complaints from the auto's other then not having OD.  Problem is you won't be able to swap a 4-speed in since they were only offered on the 2.4L.  Different bolt patterns and all that.

32 v 33's.  Like I said before, I'd go with 33's.  If you're worried about mileage and such go with the lighter 33x10.5R15's or 33x9.5R15's.  They not only have less weight but less wind resistance as well as less rolling resistance.  If you had to use someone else spare, you could use a 33x12.5R15 in a pinch.  As for clearance, I agree a body lift or better yet extending the bump stops will fix that.

[stan98tj]

so 33s it is...and 4.56 gears will be the essential set up i take it? id like to make sure the hills are a nonissue. also..what about the axles, they will handle 33s just fine? if i lock the front and have the 33s...shouldnt be an issue? if im gonna do 33s i think i may upgrade the rough country lift from a 2.5" to a 3.25"

[sharpxmen]

so 33s it is...and 4.56 gears will be the essential set up i take it? id like to make sure the hills are a nonissue. also..what about the axles, they will handle 33s just fine? if i lock the front and have the 33s...shouldnt be an issue? if im gonna do 33s i think i may upgrade the rough country lift from a 2.5" to a 3.25"

4.88 with 33s is like stock from what i know (or at least for my YJ)

[Jeffy]

4.88 with 33s is like stock from what i know (or at least for my YJ)

Again, Stan has an Automatic so he can't go too deep.

[Jeffy]

so 33s it is...and 4.56 gears will be the essential set up i take it? id like to make sure the hills are a nonissue. also..what about the axles, they will handle 33s just fine? if i lock the front and have the 33s...shouldnt be an issue? if im gonna do 33s i think i may upgrade the rough country lift from a 2.5" to a 3.25"

Personally, I'd go with as little lift as I can.  Having less up travel isn't a big deal as most of your travel will be down anyway.

With 33's is mixed.  A locker in the front shouldn't be a big deal.  A locker in the back can be trouble but again the D35 is really hit & miss.  Some are find while others break at a drop of a hat.  If there is no locker then it shouldn't be a problem.

[stan98tj]

Personally, I'd go with as little lift as I can.  Having less up travel isn't a big deal as most of your travel will be down anyway.

With 33's is mixed.  A locker in the front shouldn't be a big deal.  A locker in the back can be trouble but again the D35 is really hit & miss.  Some are find while others break at a drop of a hat.  If there is no locker then it shouldn't be a problem.

im only goin to lock the front. the fear i had with 33s is that my lift is made for up to 32s..i personally dont like the look of really stuffed up tires..i like a bit of room..not too much though. what i want to avoid is having the tire stuff up and rub the fender flare. happens to my buddy's jeep all the time and actually stops his forward momentum a lot of times if hes going slow enough (he has 33s.) i checked the rough country site and found that the 3.25-3.75" lifts actually start off as a 2.5" (which is what i have) and just add a spacer, sway bar discos and a few other things. so ill just order the body lift to get that clearance. i want to avoid the tire stuffing up and catching the flare when flexing....and i do not want to trim the flares.