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« Reply #90 on: April 27, 2010, 08:37:50 PM »
Well I think you guys have me convinced on the 4.88 gears.  I was thinking ebay for the gears but what do you guys recommend, I haven't found any packages that have front and rear kits and install kits.  I will be installing it myself.  Again thanks for the help this is a sweet site!

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« Reply #91 on: April 27, 2010, 09:37:09 PM »
Get the install kits from US gear, maybe not the cheapest, but the most complete sets I have seen with a good shim selection. Also the only kit to date that includes the labyrinth seal/ skim for dana 30 High pinion axles. Have gone through a bunch of gear install kits in the last year or so and those top all of them. For gears some claim they are all made by the same manufacturer. For the most part I have had good luck with Yukon gears
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« Reply #92 on: April 27, 2010, 10:06:11 PM »
http://completeoffroad.com/ for a great price on gears and install kits.

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« Reply #93 on: April 27, 2010, 10:48:39 PM »
I recommend calling around and seeing if they will match each other.  Also, make sure the master install kit includes carrier bearings.  Some kits have these as optional.

I'd probably stick with Yukon, Superior or Alloy USA.
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« Reply #94 on: April 27, 2010, 11:03:19 PM »
Superior just reboxes whatever they have in stock at the tome and marks them up.
When I regeared the back of my Jeep they grabbed me a set of Motive gears, put them in their box and handed them to me. I was just in a hurry or I would have gotten some Yukon gears from groupbuy 4x4, Jason has always treated me right and has pretty good prices on gears
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« Reply #95 on: April 28, 2010, 12:18:40 AM »
Superior just reboxes whatever they have in stock at the tome and marks them up.
When I regeared the back of my Jeep they grabbed me a set of Motive gears, put them in their box and handed them to me. I was just in a hurry or I would have gotten some Yukon gears from groupbuy 4x4, Jason has always treated me right and has pretty good prices on gears
Superior Gear & Axle is a part of Foote Axle and Forge who makes the actual gears.  They have no association with Motive Gears that I'm aware of.
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« Reply #96 on: April 29, 2010, 03:12:22 PM »
anyone at least think that with 4.56 id feel some type of difference over stock auto with 33s?
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« Reply #97 on: April 29, 2010, 03:21:43 PM »
anyone at least think that with 4.56 id feel some type of difference over stock auto with 33s?

Personally, I would not waste time with 4.56; I have found from my experience that the charts dont account for everything, and I prefer to gear a bit deep in the 2.5L.
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« Reply #98 on: April 29, 2010, 03:40:54 PM »
Personally, I would not waste time with 4.56; I have found from my experience that the charts dont account for everything, and I prefer to gear a bit deep in the 2.5L.

don't forget extra rotating mass

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« Reply #99 on: April 29, 2010, 04:18:40 PM »
Like I said Jeffy, I was in their main warehouse here in Rancho Cucamonga to pick up the gears and they reboxed then here I while I waited and watched. Also I have wheeled with one of their main sales guys and he even told me some of their JK gears they buy out of China. You can believe the sales hype or what the I saw and what their main rep told me while hanging out on the trail, take your pick. Their budget axle shafts come out of India also.
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« Reply #100 on: April 29, 2010, 04:54:57 PM »
Like I said Jeffy, I was in their main warehouse here in Rancho Cucamonga to pick up the gears and they reboxed then here I while I waited and watched. Also I have wheeled with one of their main sales guys and he even told me some of their JK gears they buy out of China. You can believe the sales hype or what the I saw and what their main rep told me while hanging out on the trail, take your pick. Their budget axle shafts come out of India also.

actually i was told the same thing (that the Alloy USA gears are made in China).
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« Reply #101 on: April 29, 2010, 08:10:33 PM »
actually i was told the same thing (that the Alloy USA gears are made in China).
I was told that Ron, who used to work at Superior and who started Alloy USA sold to Motive Gear.
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« Reply #102 on: April 29, 2010, 08:36:33 PM »
anyone at least think that with 4.56 id feel some type of difference over stock auto with 33s?
Sure you will feel a difference, you are changing from 3.73 to 4.56 after all.  Go ahead and get 4.56, is that what you want to hear?

You will feel a difference with the 4.56.  But will you have the performance and mileage as good as you would with 4.88, highly unlikely.  The vast majority here are telling you it's more worthwhile, in time AND money, to go with the 4.88.  Yet you're stuck on 4.56.  Do what you want, get the 4.56 :brick:

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« Reply #103 on: April 29, 2010, 08:58:23 PM »
Sure you will feel a difference, you are changing from 3.73 to 4.56 after all.  Go ahead and get 4.56, is that what you want to hear?

You will feel a difference with the 4.56.  But will you have the performance and mileage as good as you would with 4.88, highly unlikely.  The vast majority here are telling you it's more worthwhile, in time AND money, to go with the 4.88.  Yet you're stuck on 4.56.  Do what you want, get the 4.56 :brick:
Truly i appreciate the input and advice. I just feel like i need to exhaust all points of discussion given my limited knowledge in the matter. i went to 2 off-road shops in florida last month to get some advice on the matter-both told me 2 different gear ratios (4.56 and 4.10). while some would disregard the 4.10 opinion, i took it as just another piece of advice; all of which i will use to come up with my own choice. I didnt think 4.88s were an option for me until recent posts on this thread. Truth be told, i must say 4.88s certainly look like a good choice and what ill prob be going with.
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« Reply #104 on: April 29, 2010, 09:09:45 PM »
I was told that Ron, who used to work at Superior and who started Alloy USA sold to Motive Gear.

Alloy USA was purchased by Omix-ADA. They also made the statement that will cover all warranty for products sold prior to the acquisition (read that when i bought my axles) including products that were manufactured and sold after.
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