Topic: jeep speaker install

[zowtiak]

http://s880.photobucket.com/albums/ac1/zowtiak/jeep%20speakers/

here are some pics of my speaker system for the yj. good sound for when the top comes off! I was also able to mount my amp under the center console for a cleam install.

[Darteres]

Interesting.  I've never seen a speaker mounted in pipe like that.  Glad you can rock to some tunes.

[Torch_Ind]

I just put a sound bar up top in my yj that I picked up off a tj, put new in dash pioneers speakers. and a kenwood sub and rockford amp and can't remember the amp i have on the sound bar.

and it looks a lot better

[Jesse-James]

Why not do a swivel mount tweeter on the dash pad or something. It's not like you're going for a balanced sound stage with the mids mounted like that (which mine are mounted similar). Kudos for thinking outside the box, but can't say I like the looks of it.

[zowtiak]

I actually have the soundbar as well. Seems the wind blows the sound away with the top off. I was initially just going to put the mids in  but the set came with the tweeters, so i had to get creative. the parts that i dont think i took a picture of is that the pvc pipe sits on a "cap" that is gorilla glued to the clear plexiglass. I am no plumber, but i think it is called a pressure fit. The wire runs up through it and the pipe squeezes on to it tightly. The sound coming from the syatem is amaing for a 60 w stereo and a 200 watt amp, which is mounted cleanly under the console.

[Torch_Ind]

I actually have the soundbar as well. Seems the wind blows the sound away with the top off. I was initially just going to put the mids in  but the set came with the tweeters, so i had to get creative. the parts that i dont think i took a picture of is that the pvc pipe sits on a "cap" that is gorilla glued to the clear plexiglass. I am no plumber, but i think it is called a pressure fit. The wire runs up through it and the pipe squeezes on to it tightly. The sound coming from the syatem is amaing for a 60 w stereo and a 200 watt amp, which is mounted cleanly under the console.

if your sound bar blows away in the wind you would need to up the speakers and amp wattage and crank it up.  but honestly  there isn't much you can do about wind. it's more the wind blowing by your ears is the reason you can't hear it. usually every one around you can while your driving down the road because they aren't in the wind.

tweets will just let you hear high pitched sounds in the wind anyway.

[jfrabat]

tweets will just let you hear high pitched sounds in the wind anyway.

Hence the reason I put a 12" alumin sub in the back!   

[zowtiak]

nice! i had plans for that, but with my 2 6" mids using a crossover I was able to get some nice bass, highs from the crossovered tweets, and the speaker bar  has 2 ways in them. I also wanted to do my system for under 4100 incuding head unit, and I was able to accomplish that.

[95yjman]

I just put a sound bar up top in my yj that I picked up off a tj, put new in dash pioneers speakers. and a kenwood sub and rockford amp and can't remember the amp i have on the sound bar.

and it looks a lot better

Are those dash speakers a pain to change out?

[TrailsLessTaken]

Mine were a pain to change out, I ended up changing mine when i rebuilt my dash

[jfrabat]

nice! i had plans for that, but with my 2 6" mids using a crossover I was able to get some nice bass, highs from the crossovered tweets, and the speaker bar  has 2 ways in them. I also wanted to do my system for under 4100 incuding head unit, and I was able to accomplish that.

My complete system was (the main unit was free, the pair of 6" speakers and the pair of 6X9 speakers all together were $15, the Sub was $16 and the amp $19), so my total was $50.  I spent more on the modpods, wedges and SW box than I did on the system itself...  But then again, I do work for Sony, and I was in charge of Audio Marketing for Latin America when I put the system in my car (gotta LOVE those samples!)...   

Are those dash speakers a pain to change out?

Yes, they are, and not worth replacing, if you ask me.  The position and size are a poor match, especially on a noisy vehicle such as the Jeep.  I would relocate the speakers and go for a larger size...

[TrailsLessTaken]

If you replace the dash speakers you probably want to see about finding a speaker that uses a rubber surround that wont tear like the paper ones and also space them back about a 1/4" from the dash by using some tubing that slides over the post so your surround on the speaker isnt smaking the dash and distorting.  I had to tear mine back apart after i put them in cause the speaker didnt have enough room to move back and forth

[Jeffy]

The stock 4x6's aren't that great for full range.  They're OK if you 'cap' them off so only mid's and highs pass though.  Still, they suck if you remove the doors or have a cage that passes in front of them.  I'd recommend making adapter plates and running 5.2.5" speakers in their place or else run components.  The real problem with the Jeep is that you cannot balance the sound stage.  It would be nice to have the speakers lower, in the footwell but there just isn't enough room down there.  You can mount 5x7's under the doors, right about where it says Joop if you build a plate and mount it to the body.  I'm not sure if I'd like the trans hump location as your relying on the sound to bounce off body.

Stock speaker location is a real PITA to get to.  You can get the pass. speaker OK but the driver side has a support which gets in the way.  You generally have to remove the whole instrument panel and pull it away from the body to get to the speakers from above.  This is easy if your instrument panel isn't rusted under the windshield frame.

[Torch_Ind]

The stock 4x6's aren't that great for full range.  They're OK if you 'cap' them off so only mid's and highs pass though.  Still, they suck if you remove the doors or have a cage that passes in front of them.  I'd recommend making adapter plates and running 5.2.5" speakers in their place or else run components.  The real problem with the Jeep is that you cannot balance the sound stage.  It would be nice to have the speakers lower, in the footwell but there just isn't enough room down there.  You can mount 5x7's under the doors, right about where it says Joop if you build a plate and mount it to the body.  I'm not sure if I'd like the trans hump location as your relying on the sound to bounce off body.

Stock speaker location is a real PITA to get to.  You can get the pass. speaker OK but the driver side has a support which gets in the way.  You generally have to remove the whole instrument panel and pull it away from the body to get to the speakers from above.  This is easy if your instrument panel isn't rusted under the windshield frame.

ya it is true the 4x6's aren't the best speaker but the pioneers and sound bar made a huge improvement  and looks good    I don't see adding abs pipe with tweets any better for full range. your driving a jeep off road vehical not a Cadillac with a bose system. the sound bar and new fronts speakers are great. just get a set that are plastic for water problems

I have done lots of sound quality competitions. and tweets were never the concern. It was mainly getting good mid bass. and realistic sound positioning witch a time correction deck helped a lot. but it's just a jeep. save your abs pipe for a snorkel or use the cash to aid off road.    

[jfrabat]

I use the function on the Sony systems to improve the high frecuencies (it simulates fairly well that the tweeters are higher up) called Dynamic Soundstage Organizer. 

If your speakers are low in the doors, you'll love the Dynamic Soundstage Organizer. It makes the music sound like it's all around you instead of at your ankles. Sony's Dynamic Soundstage Organizer (DSO) uses proprietary circuitry to induce subtle phase shifts, simulating a sound source that is placed higher than the actual speakers in the vehicle. For example, when the DSO function is used in a vehicle equipped with speakers mounted low in the front doors, it creates virtual speakers in the dash to raise the soundstage.

That easily takes care of the high frequencies, but there is just no way to get good base from a set of small speakers.  There's no way a 6" speaker will be able to move enough air for some good base; even my 6X9 are too small (considering there is no resonance space on a Jeep) to create any meaningfull base sound.  That's why you need a SW with a good box.  Now, if you want something small and compact, you can go for a 10" sub in a sealed box.  Personally, I went with the 12" SW and ported box, but that's just me.  I use the 10" and the sealed box on my daily driver, and it is not bad (I'm actually considering doing a switharoo because of space on the Jeep).

Anyway, if it sounds good enough for you, then great.  I personally am very picky about the sound quality (but I have been living ofrom this for over 9 years now, so I guess its understandable), but to each his own.  I know I would certainly not invest what my system costs (street value) to put it in a rattle can like a Jeep...  I do it because I get it for next to nothing!