Topic: Interesting info from Currie and Dynatrac

[FourbangerYJ]

It really depends on what 9" he's using.  There are 28 spline, 31 and 35 spline shafts.  Small and big bearings as well.  Car housing as truck housings.  I'm gonna bet that he pushes his Jeep harder with the 9 then with the D35.

I was wondering that myself.
I would bet that Currie could do a HP9 front with TJ inner C's and you could use unit bearings. On some of the D60's they build for TJ's they do the same thing. Sorta D60/30
Back when I was shopping for D44 fronts I was getting the mid 4K's with hubs VS unit bearing.

[neale_rs]

He's mostly running the same trails but trying individual obstacles and lines that are much harder.  He was running the original shafts at the time.  He might have alloys now.

So far we have

Solid  $5145

Currie $3600 (without the D30 outer knuckles)

and still waiting on Dynatrac.

[Jeffy]

I was wondering that myself.
I would bet that Currie could do a HP9 front with TJ inner C's and you could use unit bearings. On some of the D60's they build for TJ's they do the same thing. Sorta D60/30
Back when I was shopping for D44 fronts I was getting the mid 4K's with hubs VS unit bearing.

Currie sells an off the shelf 9 that takes YJ/TJ inner knuckles (C-ends).  I don't really like the idea of keeping the outers though.

I think it would still be cheaper to just locate a TJ Rubicon D44 and use that.  You'll have to weld perches on and might have to weld to the tube and housing (which axle builders don't like to do) but it's pretty common.  Has to be cheaper then getting an axle shipped then having to pay tariffs on it?

For comparison, I've looked at J8 axles.  This is the export Jeep for several foreign militaries.  The front is a HP Dana 44 and the rear is a custom Dana 60, which happens to be made by Dynatrac.  They do use 5 on 5.5" bolt pattern and are 5" wider.  You're looking at $3000 and $4500 and you'd need to change the gears as they are 4.10's.

[neale_rs]

Here's another altenative that also uses the D30 outers:

http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?jeep-sid=353&plID=354&partID=53068


Much cheaper too ($2538).  This seems to be a low pinion d44 so then the comparison would have to be vs a Waggy front d44.
The local Jeep shops often get stuff from the 4wd catalog shipped here at the catalog price (they must get huge dealer discounts) and they might be able to do it with this too.

[Jeffy]

Here's another altenative that also uses the D30 outers:

http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?jeep-sid=353&plID=354&partID=53068


Much cheaper too ($2538).  This seems to be a low pinion d44 so then the comparison would have to be vs a Waggy front d44.
The local Jeep shops often get stuff from the 4wd catalog shipped here at the catalog price (they must get huge dealer discounts) and they might be able to do it with this too.

I believe that company, G2 is associated with 4WPW.

[FourbangerYJ]

I believe that company, G2 is associated with 4WPW.

Yep they are one and the same. As with 4WD hardware. Pretty sure the parent company owns other brands as well.

[Jeffy]

Yep they are one and the same. As with 4WD hardware. Pretty sure the parent company owns other brands as well.

It was a sad day when they took over 4WD Hardware.  I like them more then Qtec.  The parent company was Trans-something.  I believe they own Pro-Comp Explorer as well as some other companies.  The patent company is a parts distributor I think.

[FourbangerYJ]

It was a sad day when they took over 4WD Hardware.  I like them more then Qtec.  The parent company was Trans-something.  I believe they own Pro-Comp Explorer as well as some other companies.  The patent company is a parts distributor I think.

TransAmerica
http://www.ripoffreport.com/car-parts-accessories/4-wheel-parts-transa/4-wheel-parts-transamerican-f2466.htm
There is a lot of stuff like this^^ on the web.
Pro-comp is another of their brands.

[neale_rs]

Quite a report there.  The local shops here order directly from TransAmerica (that's what I see on the labels) and any returns are handled by the shop so it works out well for the customer.  Most likely an individual customer (non-dealer) is more likely to be treated poorly.

It's also interesting the Quadratec is also selling G2 axles.

[FourbangerYJ]

It's also interesting the Quadratec is also selling G2 axles.

Qtec sells many brands, G2 is just another product to sell.

Any updates from Currie or DT?

[neale_rs]

Currie already quoted their price ($3600).  Seems too high based on the recent JP article where they build a Currie fabricated 9" housing. JP reports spending only about $2700 for about the same thing (actually more with the TJ brackets on it).  Maybe a fabricated 9" is the way to go then!

DT still hasn't gotten back to me.  I'll send them another email and see what they say.

[Jeffy]

I wonder if they were using one of Currie's CRATE axles.  That's Currie's off the shelf axle.

[aw12345]

A friend of mine is selling front and rear rubicon axles with 4.88 gears, rear has a arb, front the stock locker comes with currie steering, compressors, superior axle shafts front and rear and a fulltraction tri link bracket. $3500 takes it away

[neale_rs]

Dynatrac emailed that they did some research on stock axle lengths and found no combination that would avoid the clearance problem with the housing at near stock width.  And so they preferred not to quote a price.

So far the best alternatives are junkyard HP D44 or alloy shafts for the D30.  A friend recently snapped both front shafts at the same time with a Waggy D44, stock shafts, and 35s.  So he says stock D44 shafts are not good enough.  His Tj has a 4.0, automatic and he is usually easy on the gas.

I'm going to put the front axle upgade on hold and concentrate on reducing vehicle weight for now.

[FourbangerYJ]

I had good luck with Warn shafts in the front of my D30 when I had it. Others I wheel with have had good luck with Superiors I know 1 that is running 37's with no failures yet. On 33's you should be fine with superiors and good joints.