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Offline dwtaylorpdx

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Re: Axles??
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2011, 10:45:21 PM »
3 different ring gear sets and 3 different lockers in the D35,  and I have a 44 with the ARB now.

The 35 gave up on the street 3 times. Finally figured out the housing was flexing like 2" under hard acceleration.

I built a bar that went across the back of the axle assembly and from the center of the assembly had a piece with movable parts that were a teltale for the flex...

I'm in the ban the 35c camp....

BTW the first time it blew was with the ARB open and I had the C-clip eliminators kit...

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« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2011, 11:39:35 PM »
Quote from: dwtaylorpdx on February 03, 2011, 10:45:21 PM
3 different ring gear sets and 3 different lockers in the D35,  and I have a 44 with the ARB now.

The 35 gave up on the street 3 times. Finally figured out the housing was flexing like 2" under hard acceleration.

I built a bar that went across the back of the axle assembly and from the center of the assembly had a piece with movable parts that were a teltale for the flex...

I'm in the ban the 35c camp....

BTW the first time it blew was with the ARB open and I had the C-clip eliminators kit...

Dave


The good old days when they still made the C-Clip eliminators.  I'm sure a lot of people don't even know they made those.
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Re: Axles??
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2011, 11:53:44 AM »
I actually have a buddy who runs 37s on his d35 and has been for years now. Granted, this jeep has never been offroad every. I would never do this even if my jeep was a mall crawler.
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« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2011, 11:58:28 AM »
Quote from: Bounty Hunter on January 27, 2011, 09:49:20 PM
Why the 38" tires if your type of wheeling doesn't dictate it?

I'd still use the Isuzu rear d44 and narrow a Ford 3/4t front d44 to Waggy width.  There's a local 4wd shop here that will narrow my housing for $300 but I'm going to do it myself.  You then end up with thicker axletubes than a Waggy, a high pinion diff, and the ability to run off-the-shelf Waggy axleshafts.

Then stick with 35"/36" tires.

Can you eleborate on this? Year, models, what it would need to be shortened to?
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« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2011, 01:30:05 PM »
I have no dimensions on width, just a Waggy axle here I'll use for a guide when narrowing the Ford housings.  I believe the Ford d44's are '78 or '79 vintage, not sure what other years work with the leaf spring pad in the correct place on the diff.
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« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2011, 01:43:17 PM »
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Offline VA_YJ

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« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2011, 02:02:46 PM »
Here's a good link that has axle shaft lengths for variuos dana 44s, including the Ford 78-79 High Pinion

http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/web_rs44.html
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« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2011, 08:29:28 AM »
Little collection of broken d35's http://www.billhughes.com/dana35c/
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« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2011, 09:02:14 AM »
Quote from: TexWalther on February 06, 2011, 08:29:28 AM
Little collection of broken d35's http://www.billhughes.com/dana35c/

 :thumbsup: Nice collection!  :lol: Each one of those makes for such a long day!
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Re: Axles??
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2011, 11:45:07 AM »
Quote from: TexWalther on February 06, 2011, 08:29:28 AM
Little collection of broken d35's http://www.billhughes.com/dana35c/
A collection of stolen images.   :lol:
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« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2011, 05:46:16 AM »
ok yes I get that yoy can break one. Hell you can break any axles. That is only 20 or so broken out of how many millions on te road though. I think a lot of it is how you drive it, how well you take care of your rig, and how often you wheel. As for me I will test it out and maybe I will eat my words, or maybe not. I don't drive mine real hard, take exceptional care of my cars and only wheel maybe once a month. For me with not wheeling more often I just can't justify blowing 2k on a dana 44. But again this is just me.
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« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2011, 08:43:20 AM »
Quote from: 4BangerTJ on February 07, 2011, 05:46:16 AM
ok yes I get that yoy can break one. Hell you can break any axles. That is only 20 or so broken out of how many millions on te road though. I think a lot of it is how you drive it, how well you take care of your rig, and how often you wheel. As for me I will test it out and maybe I will eat my words, or maybe not. I don't drive mine real hard, take exceptional care of my cars and only wheel maybe once a month. For me with not wheeling more often I just can't justify blowing 2k on a dana 44. But again this is just me.

If your going to be running a tire bigger than 31's I would invest in a HD diff cover to help keep the housing flex in check and/or a simple brace, since this seems to be a big cause of failure on these axles, but this is stuff that you would be adding to a 44 anyway.
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« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2011, 06:50:21 PM »
I agree and that is where I need help. What good diff covers do you guys recommend and where can I find things like braces to help avoid the flex?
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Offline Jeffy

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« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2011, 06:57:05 PM »
I doubt you'll increase the strength significant enough by bolting on a diff cover.

To truss it you will need to weld or bolt on trusses.  Check out sharpxmen's turdy five polishing thread.   :wall:    :lol:  http://4bangerjp.com/forums/index.php/topic,6984.120.html
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Re: Axles??
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2011, 07:06:10 PM »
The short answer is there are better axles out there, that can be had for under 300 bucks so why waste time, effort or money on something that will always be marginal at best.
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