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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2011, 01:59:08 PM »
Well after reading some of this I went to bestbuy and bought the tomtom car kit for the iphone/ipod. First one I got the charger tip where the fuse goes in was broken before i even opened the package up, took that one back in and exchanged it then got everything hooked up and the ipod does not fit in the dock correctly.  I was able to get it to fit in but i had to stick some folded up pieces of paper at the top to keep it pushed down on the charger and another one behind it so it would hit the switch to turn it on when the ipod is docked.  So I took that one back and swapped out for the Magellan one.  This one is designed more for the ipod, but the iphone will also work with it.  One of the things I liked on the TomTom unit was the windshield mount, I feel that is much better than the Magellan but Magellan's also has a very nice hold to it also.  The top of the Magellan unit is adjustable in height and also has a spacer on the backside that you can adjust so no matter what version Ipod or Iphone you have they should all work.  It also has a built in speaker that has decent sound in my truck (Jeep might be another story since i dont have any carpet or anything to deaden the sound) The mount also has a swivel so once its locked on you can rotate the Ipod either vertical or horizontal.  I will post some pictures and review the Magellan software once I get that downloaded on my Ipod, I need to take off some pictures and videos/music cause I dont have enough free space at the moment.  But at the present moment I would def recommend the Magellan over the TomTom

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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2011, 02:08:24 PM »
My wife uses a TomTom for all her travels. She likes it. When we took a family trip to Seattle we used it to get around. Came in real handy!
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2011, 02:12:30 PM »
Well, I was curious enough that I bought the TomTom.  Should be hear before my trip.  Hopefully, I'll be able to get it sorted before Sunday.

I'd like to get a sub-notebook to use as a GPS.  Having a passenger really limits how much junk I can have on the passenger side.  Although I could install a touch screen and have it pivot down from the cage...  Otherwise I could remove the glove box and make a shelf for a sub-notebook there.

i wanted to get a touchscreen but always thought that the ones looking decent and are daylight/sunlight readable are too much money, they should be going down in price though.
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2011, 02:59:48 PM »
Well after reading some of this I went to bestbuy and bought the tomtom car kit for the iphone/ipod. First one I got the charger tip where the fuse goes in was broken before i even opened the package up, took that one back in and exchanged it then got everything hooked up and the ipod does not fit in the dock correctly.  I was able to get it to fit in but i had to stick some folded up pieces of paper at the top to keep it pushed down on the charger and another one behind it so it would hit the switch to turn it on when the ipod is docked.  So I took that one back and swapped out for the Magellan one.  This one is designed more for the ipod, but the iphone will also work with it.  One of the things I liked on the TomTom unit was the windshield mount, I feel that is much better than the Magellan but Magellan's also has a very nice hold to it also.  The top of the Magellan unit is adjustable in height and also has a spacer on the backside that you can adjust so no matter what version Ipod or Iphone you have they should all work.  It also has a built in speaker that has decent sound in my truck (Jeep might be another story since i dont have any carpet or anything to deaden the sound) The mount also has a swivel so once its locked on you can rotate the Ipod either vertical or horizontal.  I will post some pictures and review the Magellan software once I get that downloaded on my Ipod, I need to take off some pictures and videos/music cause I dont have enough free space at the moment.  But at the present moment I would def recommend the Magellan over the TomTom
Yeah, the dock is for a 1 and 2nd Gen Ipod.  There are hacks where people get them to work though.  I have a 2nd gen.

What App are you running?  I've heard you can use either or on the Magellan.

The price difference is a bit much on Amazon for the TomTom and the Magellan.  $36 v. $99.  Retail on the TomTom is $99 I think.
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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2011, 07:06:14 PM »
Magellan is the app that I bought, Im waiting on it to download as I type, its roughly 1.35gb.  I was going to download it at work where I have a faster connection but needed to delete some stuff I had on my ipod to make room.  I did download The North Face Trail Head app and played with that on the way home.  It will record the route you take, average speed, distance, elevation and a few other things and you can save the routes and publish them if you want to share them.  Not a bad app for being free.  

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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2011, 08:09:36 PM »
Magellan is the app that I bought, Im waiting on it to download as I type, its roughly 1.35gb.  I was going to download it at work where I have a faster connection but needed to delete some stuff I had on my ipod to make room.  I did download The North Face Trail Head app and played with that on the way home.  It will record the route you take, average speed, distance, elevation and a few other things and you can save the routes and publish them if you want to share them.  Not a bad app for being free. 


I'll have to check that out that app.  I'll probably end up getting the TomTom app.  They all look about the same though.  I know they get their maps from the same company.

I should mention that my Garmin StreetPilot has an external antenna.  So even though it's old, (not a SRiF chip) it's pretty good.  Still has trouble getting the initial lock but then it's usually for 3/4 bars or better.
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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2011, 12:50:25 AM »
Oh I saw an app called copilot.  It's only $4 but has all the maps so it's 1.19gb in size.  Seems like a good deal.  From a quick look I think they do the gps for Enterprise car rentals.  The interface looks like a cross between the Tomtom and the Magellan.
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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2011, 05:57:21 AM »
I bought my Dad a GPS 45 as a holiday gift in 1995.  Got it retail at a little electronics store in northern VA. and remember paying about $350. I guess it was one of Garmin's first small handheld models. 

In 1997 my Dad had it with him on a trip to Denver, CO for work and I was helping him.   I remember seeing the hand-held sitting there idle at the hotel, so I took it outside and marked the location as a waypoint just for kicks. 

As it turns out, a few days later, I'm by myself driving the rental Isuzu SUV; we had gone fly-fishing the day before.  I end up getting lost in some residential area off Colfax Ave. in Denver and spend a bunch of time driving around.  So, I pull over to see if I can find a city map in the vehicle.  I open the glove box and there's the GPS 45.   This was before maps or anything on handhelds, but I found the waypoint for the hotel and that provided a carrier-pigeon effect that reoriented me until I got back to surroundings near the hotel that were visually familiiar. 

Never expected that a short time later they'd have handhelds with maps like the Street Pilot. 

The first unit with Maps I bought was a GPS V that I got the tail-end of 2002 at a West Marine store for about $450.   It was WAAS-enabled.  It only had 19mb of membory -- enough to hold maps for maybe a large city.  But the thing was worth its weight in gold driving around some city I didn't know my way around like Los Angeles. 

Right now for the road though I'm using a GPS app on my BlackBerry that has traffic reports and no limits in terms of maps.  The only catch is you need a cell signal.  So I still have the GPS V around
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2011, 12:25:51 PM »
Right now for the road though I'm using a GPS app on my BlackBerry that has traffic reports and no limits in terms of maps.  The only catch is you need a cell signal.  So I still have the GPS V around
Which App?  Many are available across many platforms.

The big ones are Navigon, Magellan and TomTom.  But there is CoPilot, MotionX, Garmin, etc...  The downside to some of these though is that some rely on Cell coverage or WiFi to give you maps so if you don't have coverage and drive too far you're SOL.  This is what I prefer the ones that download all of the maps with the App.
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2011, 01:34:06 PM »
Which App?  Many are available across many platforms.

The big ones are Navigon, Magellan and TomTom.  But there is CoPilot, MotionX, Garmin, etc...  The downside to some of these though is that some rely on Cell coverage or WiFi to give you maps so if you don't have coverage and drive too far you're SOL.  This is what I prefer the ones that download all of the maps with the App.

I was following somebody elses advice downloading this one.  It says "Sprint Navigation" TeleAtlas/Infogroup powered by Telenav.  It's worked ok but I like that idea about an app that downloads all the maps with the App.  So if the App give you all the maps and you are out of cell coverage, I guess the phone gets a GPS signal so you are still on your way?
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2011, 01:49:15 PM »
I was following somebody elses advice downloading this one.  It says "Sprint Navigation" TeleAtlas/Infogroup powered by Telenav.  It's worked ok but I like that idea about an app that downloads all the maps with the App.  So if the App give you all the maps and you are out of cell coverage, I guess the phone gets a GPS signal so you are still on your way?
The GPS will still work but you won't be seeing the map overlay.

There's also Google Maps Navigator that's free on Android phones which is nice too.  Still downloads maps though.
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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2011, 06:07:39 PM »
Well, I got the TomTom iPod Touch car kit.  I have to strip my iPod down.  I keep it in a hefty incipo case with a hard plastic back as well as a silicon sleeve.  First thing I noticed the GPS only works if I plug in 12V power. Be it USB or 12v utility.  The second thing, the SRiF chip is blazing fast.  It only took a few seconds to have 10 Sats locked in at 80% or higher.  My old GPS sometimes doesn't get a signal and I'm usually rolling which makes it worse.  So so far this thing rocks.  Now I have to get an App...
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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2011, 10:19:03 PM »
Ended up buying the TomTom app.  Looks like it's exactly what I'm looking for.  At least for onroad.  I have the other GPS for offroad.  I'll have a couple day's to check it out before I head to LA though.

On another note, I've noticed stereo GPS's seem to be moving away from the Single DIN.  Pioneer doesn't make anything other then a Double DIN GPS unit.  This is OK for newer cars but I'm sure there are still a lot of older cars that only have a single DIN slot.  Seems strange to do away with them.
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« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2011, 07:06:52 AM »
So far I like the Magellan app that I bought.  Recal time is almost instant.  It also will change the display from day to night depending on what time it is.  Its hard for me to judge fairly cause my old gps was a delphi that i think my grandpa got back in 2000 or something so it was missing all the new roads and you had to load the maps you needed on to a memory card.  I think Im going to my uncles in little rock next weekend so I will be curious to test it out on the trip down there and see how it works

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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2011, 08:25:24 PM »
So far so good.  I did run into one issue.  When the app loads for the first time ti asks you if you want to allow 'Locations'.  If you say 'No' the GPS won't work.  It will load but it will never connect.  Yes, I clicked no and ended up spending some time trying to figure out why the app wasn't working.  Luckily, there is an other app that's free that allows you to check the GPS functions.  I do wish it was integrated into the other app though.

I'm not sure if I like Portrait or Landscape mode better.  Landscape allows you to see side streets easier but portrait allows you to see further down the road.  MPH is kinda of small compared to my Garmin.  That's OK since I don't really look at it other then to make sure my speedo is calibrated which it is.  I do sort of wish the app would display cross streets larger.  When running the voice, it doesn't say the street name but it does display at the top in larger font.

Bring up 'Favorite' routes is quick as well as canceling them.  The routes so far have been accurate.  POI's are hit and miss though.  There are a lot of POI's in my town that aren't on the map for some reason.  Not that big of a deal.  When doing a route to an address it will ask you for a cross street unless it can find a number.  For some reason Disneyland Dr is on there but no addresses at Disneyland.  Then it say's the destination is in a carpool lane.  Kinda strange.  I'll do a few more tests with the routing this weekend and see if it goes OK.
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