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Title: wattery dash... agian
Post by: chardrc on October 05, 2007, 03:55:47 PM
ok so when i got my 1990yj it had a bad gasket/ seal where the windshield folds down so every time it rained water would run down the dash. resulting in electrical issues and lots of rust in the dash. so needless to say i put in a new one shortly after i got the jeep. so that had seemed to fix the problem although i only drove it in the rain ounce since then and it was dark but as far as i could tell it didn't leek. so now today i move my jeep so i can cut the grass to see water running out the side of my dash when i get a little at an angle. looks to me leek waters going down the windshield and in between the gasket and the windshield face and then working its way under the windshield frame but over the seal and into the dash area. this seal is only 1.5 years old adn shouldn't be leeking. any suggestions on how to stop the leakage. ow and its been raining allot here and i haven't driving my jeep for almost a month now :wall: if that makes a difference. 1990yj thanks for any replies
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: chardrc on October 06, 2007, 05:02:35 PM
anyone have any problems like this. should i just apply massive amounts of silicone to the seal of what.  :confused:
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: lanulos89 on October 06, 2007, 05:29:31 PM
idk but silocone cld work out nicee, but try nd do it on the inside be fugly on the outside
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: Jesse-James on October 06, 2007, 05:59:52 PM
idk but silocone cld work out nicee, but try nd do it on the inside be fugly on the outside

Chardrc has learned English in the passing months. You don't need to speak in his former language.  :twofingers:
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: Jeffy on October 06, 2007, 08:52:51 PM
idk but silocone cld work out nicee, but try nd do it on the inside be fugly on the outside

Chardrc has learned English in the passing months. You don't need to speak in his former language.  :twofingers:

LOL!  I was thinking the same thing! :lol: :roflol:
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: lanulos89 on October 07, 2007, 05:49:13 AM
buti enjoy speaking in his native tongue,  now lets keeep this thread devoted to his topic.  and not my speech  :guns:
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: oldjeep on October 07, 2007, 09:46:47 AM
Might want to get out the hose and make sure where the water is coming in.  Could also be coming in around the door seals.   The rain and wind we've had recently is capable of driving water past even a good seal.
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: chardrc on October 07, 2007, 10:29:37 AM
true. about the wind thing.. and my soft upper doors seals aren't that great. if it wasn't so darn hot and humid outside id be looking into it now. i will probably look into it ounce i finish my physics homework.

about my "native" language i didn't even notice his spelling mishaps until the next comment was about it... thank god for Mozilla Firefox having spell check.  :bow: :bow:
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: chardrc on October 07, 2007, 10:32:00 AM
ow on a different note. warn has worintied my rear bumper that has fadded room siting in the sun for a year. so i should have a new bumper coming soon :twofingers:
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: Jeffy on October 07, 2007, 11:56:38 AM
You will need to use a hose to see where it's leaking from.  If the seal was replaced I'd really check the cowl seam.  This is where the the cowl connects to the upright that starts the windshield frame on the body.  Basically in that 80* angle area under the windshield frame where the vent is.  The calk gets old over the years and shrinks.  If it shrinks it may pull away from one side allowing water to enter.  If you decide to fix it I suggest not using clear silicone.  You want something that will dry smooth and not feel sticky to the touch.

BTW: if you have a spare bumper, I can give it a good home.  :whistle:
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: chardrc on October 07, 2007, 02:29:39 PM
i don't know the details on if i have to send the old one back or not. i didn't car that mush about the fading but my dad has the same bumper and the paint chipped and rusted after 1 winter of salt and sand. 
i think shipping from mn to California would have a hefty shipping cost. and i may convert the old one into a front bumper and repaint it myself although i kinda like my stock chrome one cuz it resembles the original jeep front bumpers.

ill have to spray some water at the jeep with the hose sometime when its not already raining / when the grass isnt already so went where my jeep is parked that its turning into a mud pit. this calking you talk of. is that so posed to be where the sheat metal that the plastic dash screws into meats with the rest of the body? cuz when we replaced the seal that was 90% rusted away up top so we used some rust reversal stuff and painted it before putign the dash back together and such. but the calkign we saw there didn't look very stock(very messy).
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: Jeffy on October 07, 2007, 04:33:17 PM
i don't know the details on if i have to send the old one back or not. i didn't car that mush about the fading but my dad has the same bumper and the paint chipped and rusted after 1 winter of salt and sand. 
i think shipping from mn to California would have a hefty shipping cost. and i may convert the old one into a front bumper and repaint it myself although i kinda like my stock chrome one cuz it resembles the original jeep front bumpers.

Well, let me know what you decide.  I doubt it will be that expensive to ship ground.

ill have to spray some water at the jeep with the hose sometime when its not already raining / when the grass isnt already so went where my jeep is parked that its turning into a mud pit. this calking you talk of. is that so posed to be where the sheat metal that the plastic dash screws into meats with the rest of the body? cuz when we replaced the seal that was 90% rusted away up top so we used some rust reversal stuff and painted it before putign the dash back together and such. but the calkign we saw there didn't look very stock(very messy).
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No, further down...  On the outside of the Jeep.  The sealany is sprayed over with paint so it will match the Jeeps color.  It's not that big black cowl seal.
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: chardrc on October 07, 2007, 04:50:21 PM
aw now i know what your talking about... will check.
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: jfrabat on October 08, 2007, 08:29:14 AM
I had a similar problem, and it turned out to be the wires of my windshield mounted KC Daylighters that had just enough room for water to get in while driving at highway speeds (I guess the wind had something to do with that).  But from what I see, you do not have windshield mounted lights, so might not be the same problems as you have...

Felipe
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: jeepheap on October 19, 2007, 05:12:56 PM
DAMNIT!!!  it rained last night, had a hard time starting the jeep this morning, but no big deal. went to a JOB INTERVIEW and couldn't start it when i left, uh-oh. floor boards were wet lokked under the dash and everything is soaked!!!  just wanted to share my pain with some one who might under stand.
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: lanulos89 on October 19, 2007, 05:38:42 PM
i understand morow at work im gonna have someone power wash the fornt of my jeep while i look for my leak, i lost two head units to my leak in the past month, so im pissed  :rant:.  if you find it let me kno what yours was and i will like wise
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: jfrabat on October 19, 2007, 06:00:40 PM
Well, if it makes you feel any better, last week, it was raining really hard here with a lot of wind, and as I drove into the wind, there was water (not dripping; STREAMING!) into my foot!  So I out the windshield and re-routed the lights' wires to see if I can cure this problem...  At least now its only a problem when it rains REALLY hard and I drive into the wind...

Felipe
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: chardrc on October 19, 2007, 09:09:43 PM
well today i drove my jeep to a friends house cuz it was soposed to be raining like it has been ever other day this month. but when i left it stopped raining.. but the wind started to rip my side window of my soft top off and making it flop in the wind... no to fun. ow and my soft upper door was stretching like 4 inches out from the rest of the jeep... i think its time i invest in a new soft top.. the worst part of watery dash is the rust after words the runes you contacts on the gages and your headlamp switch....
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: oldjeep on October 20, 2007, 10:33:58 AM
well today i drove my jeep to a friends house cuz it was soposed to be raining like it has been ever other day this month. but when i left it stopped raining.. but the wind started to rip my side window of my soft top off and making it flop in the wind... no to fun. ow and my soft upper door was stretching like 4 inches out from the rest of the jeep... i think its time i invest in a new soft top.. the worst part of watery dash is the rust after words the runes you contacts on the gages and your headlamp switch....

You want a free black hard top?  It's missing the rear hatch, but otherwise not too bad.
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: chardrc on October 20, 2007, 07:10:49 PM
for a yj.. that would be sweet. ill have to find a place where i could put it in the summer thow... what would it take to get a rear hatch. can they be ordered for a half descent price?
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: aw12345 on October 20, 2007, 07:19:28 PM
Don't daddle lol hop in the Jeep and go relieve Chuck of that hard top. They don't give those away to often
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: Jeffy on October 20, 2007, 07:39:31 PM
You don't go out and buy a new liftgate.  YJ tops haven't been made for 12 years now.  Most of it is glass.  There is a bottom piece that you'll need to find.  There are also two clips for the struts that attach to the glass.  Most liftgates don't have latches although some do.
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: oldjeep on October 20, 2007, 07:40:14 PM
for a yj.. that would be sweet. ill have to find a place where i could put it in the summer thow... what would it take to get a rear hatch. can they be ordered for a half descent price?

It is for a YJ - I think it was made by steelhorse.

The back hatches are expensive and hard to find.  But a resourcefull guy might be able to make one.
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: Jeffy on October 20, 2007, 07:46:51 PM
for a yj.. that would be sweet. ill have to find a place where i could put it in the summer thow... what would it take to get a rear hatch. can they be ordered for a half descent price?

It is for a YJ - I think it was made by steelhorse.

The back hatches are expensive and hard to find.  But a resourcefull guy might be able to make one.

Oh, it's a Leakhorse...  I had one of those...  Sold it and got a real hardtop.   :lol:  The liftgate should be all glass with two turn handles.  Should be able to get someone to cut something to fit then throw on some cheap T-handle locks.
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: chardrc on October 21, 2007, 01:07:04 PM
ok i have an idea of what  could do for the back.. i just need to get it approved by my dad. :wall:
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: chardrc on October 25, 2007, 08:35:55 PM
ok i can take it. ill send you a pm.
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: oldjeep on October 26, 2007, 08:27:01 AM
ok i can take it. ill send you a pm.

OK, you're going to want to pick it up with a truck I'm guessing.  Unless you already have some kind of latch brackets on your windshield frame - I never got those with the hardtop.  We'll make sure that you or you and your dad take a good look at it to make sure you want it.
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: oldjeep on October 26, 2007, 08:33:19 AM
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Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: chardrc on November 05, 2007, 06:42:14 PM
picked it up today. thanks again for the top. thats a +1 for free parts  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: oldjeep on November 05, 2007, 06:58:53 PM
Enjoy.  One less thing taking up space.  Now if I could just get that extra Comanche bed out of there :)
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: chardrc on November 05, 2007, 07:06:36 PM
ya we are adding onto our kitchen now so our garage has been turned into a temporary kitchen... not good for our plans of starting out v6 cj2a project that we are (soposidly) starting soon now that hunting is done. so its more working on my jeep in my yard for me.
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: chardrc on November 09, 2007, 03:50:15 PM
ok so i was looking into the whole mounting busness for the top today. looks like the 4 bolt holes on each side will line up. but i don't have the things for the front clamps to lock into. id think they aren't anything special but if anyone has pics that would be nice. and also looks like i need full hard doors.
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: oldjeep on November 10, 2007, 10:13:29 AM
For that style latch, I think they just use footman loops
Title: Re: wattery dash... agian
Post by: chardrc on November 10, 2007, 06:12:37 PM
ok i was hoping that was the case. simple and cheap sounds good for this project.