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Title: starting without the clutch pushed in?
Post by: lqdtrance on July 27, 2009, 05:08:07 PM
I have a 93YJ and I can start it without the clutch being pushed in. Is this normal?
Title: Re: starting without the clutch pushed in?
Post by: chardrc on July 27, 2009, 05:24:58 PM
my 1990 starts with the clutch not pushed in.... newer vehicles have a switch so you can't do that (aka my s10 :brick:).. its good to have a stater powerful enough to do that when your slave cylinder gives out...
Title: Re: starting without the clutch pushed in?
Post by: lqdtrance on July 27, 2009, 05:27:44 PM
ok, cool. My s10 was like that as well that is why I was a little concerned. I am also having other wierd issues with the electrical in my YJ, "Jeep hickups" thread. Just making sure it wasn't related.
Title: Re: starting without the clutch pushed in?
Post by: jfrabat on July 27, 2009, 05:27:50 PM
On offroad vehicles, this is a good thing; if you get stuck going uphill on a loose gravel road, starting with the clutch can be a real PITA, as the tires will have a hard time finding traction.  But slip your TC into 4L, stick the engine in 1st gear, pop the e-brake, and start the engine in gear, and since the tires move slowly, you will most likely end up moving forward...
Title: Re: starting without the clutch pushed in?
Post by: sharpxmen on July 27, 2009, 08:05:43 PM
I have a 93YJ and I can start it without the clutch being pushed in. Is this normal?
it's normal, my 95YJ is the same.
and i've seen this on tv a long time ago - someone got stuck (engine stalled) on the train tracks and he put it in gear and cranked his way off the tracks, good option to have like ^ he said too.
Title: Re: starting without the clutch pushed in?
Post by: Jeffy on July 28, 2009, 12:12:58 PM
I hate the stupid starter interrupt switch for the clutch.  It's for stupid people who leave the transmission in gear and try to start it.  Do that a few times and you'll learn quickly to double check the transmission before starting.  Before people got stupid, you used to be able to start them with the clutch out.  And when offroading, you want to disable the switch (if you have one) so you can start it while in gear.  Some situations, you do not want to have to worry about rolling backwards.  BTW: even the stock starter will be able to do a few long pulls.
Title: Re: starting without the clutch pushed in?
Post by: dos0711 on July 28, 2009, 12:30:16 PM
I love not having one. My 68 CJ got the ignition wet in a flooded road and I creeped out with the starter...lol
Title: Re: starting without the clutch pushed in?
Post by: jwalls4x4 on August 03, 2009, 09:46:49 PM
Some situations, you do not want to have to worry about rolling backwards.

Or, you can swap in an AT and have a peddle for each foot... :stick:
Title: Re: starting without the clutch pushed in?
Post by: sharpxmen on August 03, 2009, 10:33:49 PM
Or, you can swap in an AT and have a peddle for each foot... :stick:
i had a subaru that was fitted with a clutch brake valve (factory equipped) - when you had the brake pedal pressed and press the clutch it would hold the brake pressure in until you release the clutch - pretty neat feature, didn't have to worry of rolling backwards, i wonder if they are available as aftermarket upgrade.
Title: Re: starting without the clutch pushed in?
Post by: FourbangerYJ on August 03, 2009, 10:54:13 PM
A hand throttle does about the same. Kinda like growing an extra foot. RE has them for about $30 or you can make your own with a bike shifter.
Title: Re: starting without the clutch pushed in?
Post by: Jeffy on August 04, 2009, 12:55:02 PM
A hand throttle does about the same. Kinda like growing an extra foot. RE has them for about $30 or you can make your own with a bike shifter.
They do help a lot especially when you're not geared low enough.  I've had mine since '97.
Title: Re: starting without the clutch pushed in?
Post by: chardrc on August 04, 2009, 08:55:27 PM
i had a subaru that was fitted with a clutch brake valve (factory equipped) - when you had the brake pedal pressed and press the clutch it would hold the brake pressure in until you release the clutch - pretty neat feature, didn't have to worry of rolling backwards, i wonder if they are available as aftermarket upgrade.

that would have been nice this weekend.. almost rolled bask into a tree which would have smashed my taillight (the new one non the less) i need to figure out how to connect my finger throttle to the throttle corectly.