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Title: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on September 15, 2009, 06:22:49 AM
I want to upgrade my steering since my last wheeling outing its pretty sloppy. I am thinking jcroffroads kit bc it uses full size chevy tre's. easy to find tre's if breakage.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on September 15, 2009, 06:25:33 AM
I am sua and am thinking going tie rod flip and put stock drop pit arm back on. what are you guys exp? Should i get there tre with poly boot or stick w stock or moog that has greasable boot.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on September 15, 2009, 06:27:04 AM
My yj is a dd and once a month wheeler
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: neale_rs on September 15, 2009, 08:00:44 AM
The tie rod flip is a good way to go with SUA.  But it will kind of lock you into SUA unless you spend more to undo the flip.  The slop could be in other places too.  My '95 had slop in the u-joints on the shaft from the stering wheel to the box and also in two TREs on the drag link.  It got better but it still has slop in the box itself.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on September 15, 2009, 08:24:55 AM
I do understand that slop can be other places. but when you jack up one wheel and shake tire side to side lot of movement at least an inch forward and backward
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: neale_rs on September 15, 2009, 08:41:05 AM
Wow, that is pretty serious slop!
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: Jesse-James on September 15, 2009, 08:45:32 AM
Can you SEE what's moving? Hubs maybe?
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on September 15, 2009, 09:06:14 AM
hubs were good when i eliminated vac disco. wldnt it move up n down as well then. it doesnt. all linkage moves but not pitman arm.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on September 15, 2009, 09:11:11 AM
with wheels on ground the linkage rotates fwd and back when turning wheel while standing still
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: Mozman68 on September 15, 2009, 09:17:22 AM
Love my JCR high steer setup....daily driving and on the trails....

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3270/2579344862_908b3f3e96_b.jpg)
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: FourbangerYJ on September 15, 2009, 09:27:35 AM
If your serious about switching your steering to the top of the knuckle. I have the steering links you need. They are set up for the GM TRE. 7/8x18TPI. When I was running my D30 I used these.
They are 1.25 DOM with some 1 inch .095 sleeved inside with some Poly Performance 7/8 x 18 TPI bungs welded on each end. One left and right per link.
You would need to get the TRE's and a reamer to ream the knuckles, one of the TRE's and your pitman arm.

I have about $100 into the set with the steel and bungs. I'll take $50 plus the ride.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on September 15, 2009, 11:38:34 AM
are they correct length for a yj? if so drop me an email at drunkencityworker@hotmail.com
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: Jesse-James on September 15, 2009, 12:02:54 PM
with wheels on ground the linkage rotates fwd and back when turning wheel while standing still

Rotation is normal on the stock setup IIRC. But yes you'd have movement up/down as well it were the hubs.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: FourbangerYJ on September 15, 2009, 01:15:12 PM
are they correct length for a yj? if so drop me an email at drunkencityworker@hotmail.com
Yes.
E-mail sent.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: FourbangerYJ on September 18, 2009, 07:43:04 PM
I'm sending this stuff thru UPS tom. Paypal me when you can.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on September 18, 2009, 09:54:24 PM
thanks again..i will keep u up to date and try and post pics of my steering upgrade. cant wait.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: FourbangerYJ on September 19, 2009, 03:36:05 PM
They will ship on Monday and should be there on Friday.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on September 22, 2009, 11:43:54 AM
send a request for payment to drunkencityworker@hotmail.com
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: sharpxmen on September 22, 2009, 11:54:02 AM
send a request for payment to drunkencityworker@hotmail.com

you should modify your post and put drunkencityworker at hotmail.com or you'll get a ton of spam
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: FourbangerYJ on September 22, 2009, 01:59:30 PM
send a request for payment to drunkencityworker@hotmail.com

Request sent.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on September 23, 2009, 05:54:57 AM
sorry...didnt get. is your email addy same for paypal? i can send like that too
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: FourbangerYJ on September 23, 2009, 09:58:53 AM
sorry...didnt get. is your email addy same for paypal? i can send like that too

Yes it is. I also sent a reminder thru Paypal.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on September 23, 2009, 12:32:25 PM
money sent...i will try and post up in my build more specifics of how i do it since there has been intereast
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: FourbangerYJ on September 23, 2009, 02:22:08 PM
Thanks.
If you need any advice let me know.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: FourbangerYJ on September 23, 2009, 02:48:44 PM
http://www.bcbroncos.com/tools.html

This is where I got my reamer from. I have the pro model. Looks like the price has gone up a bit since I bought mine. It does not list a price on the economy one. But the nice thing about them is they fit into a 1/2 inch drill chuck.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on September 25, 2009, 09:20:47 AM
update...got my tre's at orielleys. was $80plus tax. which is considerably cheaper than most sites that sell whole kit. My advice to by check price on links sep and pick up tre's on your own
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on September 25, 2009, 09:24:10 AM
the whole reason i chose this setup is if i break a tre or they wear out i can get replacements at local auto parts store. so price so far on my 1ton steering project is about $150
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on September 25, 2009, 09:29:11 AM
I am still trying to locate either a shop in chicago area that carries proper tapered reamer or fellow wheeler that has one i can borrow trying to keep cost down
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: FourbangerYJ on September 25, 2009, 09:30:35 AM
I think I have about $300 into mine, but $100 of that was the reamer. I got my TRE's from NAPA, IIRC they were aroudn $130 for the set of 4.
You make good points about the ease of finding replacement parts. I carry some spares with me since no one else I run with uses them. If you get a spare make sure you get the one that goes on the passanger knucle. It needs to have the hole reamed so the DL will go in there. Plus since that is a fairly long TRE plus the hole in the middle, it has been known to bend.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: FourbangerYJ on September 26, 2009, 10:03:10 AM
Did the steering links make it? I hope the box was in tacked.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: FourbangerYJ on October 01, 2009, 09:54:29 AM
Did you get anything done?
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on October 01, 2009, 08:41:49 PM
Its been crazy lately with baby moma drama and my dads gf trying to plan an intervention. However I managed to get rockers cut up and dropped off with my yj for the cage work and tubes welded to rckrs
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on October 01, 2009, 08:52:02 PM
Time line is to be done before my next trail ride,oct 18th. I am being forced to take 4unpaid furlo days. So i am taking a 4-5day weekend 10-14th of october. Plan to tackle the steering that wkend
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on October 01, 2009, 09:01:05 PM
oh...and cant forget pay day will be nice. cant find anyone w reamer and i went overbudget last check so have to wait to get reamer..I will post my work as it goes.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on October 07, 2009, 06:07:26 AM
UPDATE: buying reamer today. spliting cost w a bud that needs it too. steering going in sunday
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: FourbangerYJ on October 07, 2009, 10:01:26 AM
UPDATE: buying reamer today. spliting cost w a bud that needs it too. steering going in sunday

Use LOTS of cutting oil when reaming the knuckles. They take long time. Put a drip pan under the knuckle so it can drip into it. Then you can reuse the cutting oil.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on October 07, 2009, 11:41:32 AM
good tip... went with www.completeoffroad.com for reamer. Being in iowa fast shipping to me in chicago. oh it was $69
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: sharpxmen on October 07, 2009, 01:27:54 PM
good tip... went with www.completeoffroad.com for reamer. Being in iowa fast shipping to me in chicago. oh it was $69

take some pics when you do it (the whole install if you can) - you should have a project thread just for this.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on October 07, 2009, 05:11:31 PM
ok. i will give it a try. i will post on this thread till done. then using tips i got before and during along with pics  try and make it like a how to
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: sharpxmen on October 07, 2009, 09:05:34 PM
ok. i will give it a try. i will post on this thread till done. then using tips i got before and during along with pics  try and make it like a how to

that'd be awesome, looking forward to it.
Title: Re: 1ton steering
Post by: drunkencityworker on October 12, 2009, 03:54:05 AM
drag link was about 6-8 inches too long. tie rod worked great