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Offline grumpygy

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Reversing the shackels
« on: July 17, 2011, 01:39:23 PM »
  Has anybody done it and is it worth the time.  From what they say it seems like a good Idea.  Just not sure.  Now that my alignment is a lot closer to what it is supposed to be.  Well it now at least has some toe in may be too much kind of hard to measure.  It drives much better.   But before I found out about the toe in reversing the shackles to the rear was going to be my last hope.
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Re: Reversing the shackels
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2011, 08:10:47 PM »
This is what the product Description says.



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This system allows for relocating your front spring shackles to the rear mount for an improved, more stable ride with less rebound in the front end. No welding is required. This kit will work for lifted or factory height vehicles, and gives about 1/2" of lift.
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Re: Reversing the shackels
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2011, 08:27:37 PM »
Quote from: grumpygy on July 17, 2011, 08:10:47 PM
This is what the product Description says.

downside imo is that you lose some clearance where the shackles go. Never used them so can't be of much help otherwise.
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Re: Reversing the shackels
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2011, 08:47:22 PM »
I spend more time on the road that off.  So not too worried about that.    Still have some of that Darting around the lane and would like to end that.
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Re: Reversing the shackels
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2011, 09:53:27 PM »
If you spend more time onroad then they can help.  You should have less wander.  The ride may become smoother as the leaf isn't fighting the shackle.

The downsides is that you'll get more dive when braking hard.  If you're steering isn't set up right you'll get more bumpsteer.  The other problem is with the front driveshaft.  If the driveshaft is too long you'll end up punching the transfer case.

There are some other things to be aware of.  Some shackle kits add lift, others don't.  Don't go with a bolt-on.  Not only does it add lift it will reduce your approach angle.

Although if you have other problems, it probably won't fix it.
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Re: Reversing the shackels
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2011, 10:19:26 PM »
Ok Bolt on does that not depend on who makes it Rough Country has one its a bolt on.    Seems like it answers all the things you broing up to include drive shaft. In which they tell you to stick with stock length or you will have problems.  But the one thing I see as a problem is driveline angle.  The way I have it now with a 3/4" longer shackle in the front puts the angle just right.


  Think what I really need to do is get it in and have the alignment checked  and corrected.  Then see how it drives.  Cause all I could replace right now would be the Ball joints and they are still tight.  Everything else I've changed.
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Re: Reversing the shackels
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2011, 06:01:24 PM »
Well that Idea may now be on hold.  One of the guys I work with noticed I have a bad wobble on my right rear wheel.  Thats the very side I was hit on when broadsided, they hit right on the tire on that side almost flipped me..  I'm beginning to wonder if they ever really changed out my rear end like they said.  I'm thinking the axle is bent slightly. 

  Know its not the rim cause that one is now on the front.  So what I need to do is pick up a dial Indicator tomorrow.  And see what is the problem  thinking the end of the Axle is out just a bit.


Have to get a Jack too mine just gave up the ghost.
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Re: Reversing the shackels
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2011, 06:13:12 PM »
Quote from: grumpygy on July 19, 2011, 06:01:24 PM
Well that Idea may now be on hold.  One of the guys I work with noticed I have a bad wobble on my right rear wheel.  Thats the very side I was hit on when broadsided, they hit right on the tire on that side almost flipped me..  I'm beginning to wonder if they ever really changed out my rear end like they said.  I'm thinking the axle is bent slightly. 

  Know its not the rim cause that one is now on the front.  So what I need to do is pick up a dial Indicator tomorrow.  And see what is the problem  thinking the end of the Axle is out just a bit.


Have to get a Jack too mine just gave up the ghost.
Jack it up and just spin the tire.  If it's bent you'll be able to see it.  I had a wobble that was about 1" deflection in the rear with the tire on.  It's a lot easier to see the bend with the tire on then with it off anyway.  no need for dial indicator.  Mine bent right at the bearing and would leak oil into the drum.
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Re: Reversing the shackels
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2011, 06:15:29 PM »
Quote from: grumpygy on July 19, 2011, 06:01:24 PM
Well that Idea may now be on hold.  One of the guys I work with noticed I have a bad wobble on my right rear wheel.  Thats the very side I was hit on when broadsided, they hit right on the tire on that side almost flipped me..  I'm beginning to wonder if they ever really changed out my rear end like they said.  I'm thinking the axle is bent slightly. 

  Know its not the rim cause that one is now on the front.  So what I need to do is pick up a dial Indicator tomorrow.  And see what is the problem  thinking the end of the Axle is out just a bit.


Have to get a Jack too mine just gave up the ghost.

If your still running the D35C and your flange is bent I have a pair of shafts you can have for the cost of shipping.
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Re: Reversing the shackels
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2011, 07:01:13 PM »
Quote from: Jeffy on July 19, 2011, 06:13:12 PM
Jack it up and just spin the tire.  If it's bent you'll be able to see it.  I had a wobble that was about 1" deflection in the rear with the tire on.  It's a lot easier to see the bend with the tire on then with it off anyway.  no need for dial indicator.  Mine bent right at the bearing and would leak oil into the drum.

  Need the dial indicator for other work anyway and will get it when I get my new Jack as the olds one died on me.
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Re: Reversing the shackels
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2011, 07:02:23 PM »
Quote from: FourbangerYJ on July 19, 2011, 06:15:29 PM
If your still running the D35C and your flange is bent I have a pair of shafts you can have for the cost of shipping.


Any Idea what shipping will be as I would love to get them.
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Re: Reversing the shackels
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2011, 08:39:07 PM »
Quote from: grumpygy on July 19, 2011, 07:02:23 PM
Any Idea what shipping will be as I would love to get them.

No clue, where are you?
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Re: Reversing the shackels
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2011, 09:08:34 PM »
Quote from: FourbangerYJ on July 19, 2011, 08:39:07 PM
No clue, where are you?

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Re: Reversing the shackels
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2011, 10:34:01 PM »
it will probably be $25 to $30 per axle, could be cheaper than double for both - i am comparing that with a driveshaft i had to ship from Utah to WA. I shipped a pair of axles to CA from Canada and was something like $60 so your ballpark would be somewhere around $50 imo.
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Re: Reversing the shackels
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2011, 10:44:26 PM »
You use paypal right. Cause $50 sounds great.
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