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AGUHR

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MORE High Steer bracket
« on: August 15, 2011, 03:56:03 AM »
So I bent both front leafs really bad this weekend and I need to replace them, since I do, I'm am gong to finally bite the bullet and go SOA. I have everything already in a corner of my garage except for a high steer setup.

Can anyone tell me if the MORE bracket is any good or what I should buy.

Any opinoions would be great, I am absolutely doing SOA.

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Re: MORE High Steer bracket
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2011, 04:05:43 AM »
Its for a D30, one other option would be to get a D44 - so add that thought into the consideration.

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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2011, 11:55:00 AM »
All you really need for a SOA are new perches.  Nothing to special with that.  Although RE made some that were jsut the right height so your drag-link cleared the stock leaf spring.

Are you doing SOA in the back as well?
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2011, 01:17:43 PM »
yes in the back as well. When I installed the 8.8 in the rear last month I just tacked the top brackets in with the anticipation of doing a SOA in the near future.
Didn't think it would be this quick though. 
I've read a lot of people saying a 4cyl wont cause axle wrap in the rear. I know you run a SUA in the back which I like the idea of strength. but I am trying to get that extra flex with strong contact if possible.  Here in FL we have very deep wash outs that I fall pray to all the time and would be really stuck if it weren't for a LSD and locker in the front.

I'm leaning to RE springs and talking with a local shop to see about just purchasing them. I think they run $160 each for a 1inch lift from RE.

So a RE SOA kit you can run a stock drag link? I have a HD Rugged Ridge steering setup. Anyone know if this works as well? That would let me change this to SOA right away and save up for a highsteer down the road.

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2011, 01:44:34 PM »
With SOA in the rear you will need an anti-wrap bar.  Several 4 cyl YJs here locally had lots of u-joint breakage before they got anti-wrap bars installed.  This was with stock spring packs.  The RE SOA springs should be better though.
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2011, 03:35:21 PM »
yes in the back as well. When I installed the 8.8 in the rear last month I just tacked the top brackets in with the anticipation of doing a SOA in the near future.
Didn't think it would be this quick though. 
I've read a lot of people saying a 4cyl wont cause axle wrap in the rear. I know you run a SUA in the back which I like the idea of strength. but I am trying to get that extra flex with strong contact if possible.  Here in FL we have very deep wash outs that I fall pray to all the time and would be really stuck if it weren't for a LSD and locker in the front.

I'm leaning to RE springs and talking with a local shop to see about just purchasing them. I think they run $160 each for a 1inch lift from RE.

So a RE SOA kit you can run a stock drag link? I have a HD Rugged Ridge steering setup. Anyone know if this works as well? That would let me change this to SOA right away and save up for a highsteer down the road.
Well, keep in mind that if you go SOA on stock rear leafs you'll probably have closer to 5" lift.  If you go with 1.5" RE SOA leafs you'll be looking at 6.5-6.75" lift.  Flatter leafs are better.

I don't know if you'll need an anti-wrap bar or not with the SOA leafs.  They use a reverse arch which helps elevate wrap.  Also, do a lot of research on anti-wrap bars.  You'll more then likely have to build one from scratch then get anything that will work off the shelf.  Most off the shelf kits end up breaking.
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 03:49:16 AM »
I was curious if it was needed or not - and really if I dont put a anti wrap bar on then I could twist a little - so I might as well figure out something - The SUA in the rear may have to be kept as on option too.

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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 06:45:46 AM »
Are there any companies that make a stock spring height that is built like the RE for SOA?
Or is the 1.5 RE the best spring to use? (off the shelf).

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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 09:15:40 AM »
just get an anti-wrap bar, would be easier, cheaper and better in the end compared to replacing the leafs imo. otherwise if you're going to get new leaf springs might as well just keep it sua, not sure why you'd need 6 to 7 inches of lift unless you plan on running 37+ tires.
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 11:08:43 AM »
I don't want 6-7 of lift, stock springs is what I would want but every forum I read they say to use RE springs for SOA and the only SOA spring they make is a 1.5.  My current set up is a 2.5 so I have to swap springs of some kind.

Just a normal replacement spring will do? Should I assume the bigger the pack the better?

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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2011, 12:53:32 PM »
If you think you might be getting the RE 1.5" SOA springs but they will give you too much lift then maybe just get the RE 4" extreme duty springs and stay SUA.  Or get some Deaver springs for even better performance.
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2011, 01:34:31 PM »
I really don't want to do SUA, I'm just trying to find the best possible spring for SOA with little to no lift if possible.

Looks like if nothing else the RE is the choice or having some made.

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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2011, 01:38:51 PM »
why do you want to go soa? just for my information.
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Re: MORE High Steer bracket
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2011, 11:44:50 PM »
Are there any companies that make a stock spring height that is built like the RE for SOA?
Or is the 1.5 RE the best spring to use? (off the shelf).

If you're going to stick with stock springs get HD or all rear leafs.  Front leafs are a bit too soft.  I don't believe anyone makes reverse arched leafs unless you get them custom.

If I was going to do my suspension again, I'd consider a 4.5" Deaver SUA leafs and some 5/8" shackles.  Alcan Springs and National Springs can make custom leafs.  When I checked with them years ago, they could make 1"-6" at no cost difference.  These aren't cheap by any means though you get what you pay for.

I currently run stock 5 leaf rear packs SOA up front and 3.5" SUA Trail Master leafs in the back.  The Jeep sits level with a .5" height difference at either end. If I take the top off, it's about 1" higher at the rear.  It's pretty soft which is what I really like about it.  Not to mention, cheap since I was already lifted when I did the change over.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2011, 03:56:10 AM »
Awesome thanks for the input Jeffy.
We have a 4 wheel parts show in Orlando this weekend - Im going to go and check it out to see if anyone has any specials I cant pass up.