Topic: One Car Too Far aka: Rescue the Jeep

[FourbangerYJ]

Seems rigged... How do you brake a rear axle when going down hill on a wet snowy surface?
How do you go from jacking up the Jeep every few feet to slide the axle assy. back in to driving it from looked like a while and making left and right turns without it falling off?

I have broken D35 shafts. You know something has gone wrong with a fairly loud bang!

Bill is a tool! Watching his buddy dig the hole to sleep in while he stayed in the Jeep. Then when he started freezing he jumped in the hole to get warm. He is lucky he didn't get the boot.

[Jeffy]

I just finished watching it.  I get a laugh out of the intro of them.  Gary, Survivalist, who's killed people with his bare hands.  Bill, once clicked 'Like' on FB...

This is the exact reason I would have chosen to have open-diffs then a locker.  You could tell they broke the shaft well before getting to the rocks.  I'm not sure if it was rigged but somewhere Bill bumped the throttle where he shouldn't have.  He was also incorrect with his description.  It had nothing to do with a 75lbs tire and all to do with too much throttle at the wrong time.  Fluke?  He should maybe do a little research on Jeeps, maybe.  If he did, I'm sure he would be yanking out the locker for the next episode.

As for the fix, I guess that's one way to do it.  I think I'd prefer to have it roll then to drag it.  Luckily the road was dirt though.  They had an ax handle as well as the hi-lift handle.  I'm sure they could have roped that tire in.

OH and how many seatbelts dones this Jeep have?  They've cut the rear seat belts out in both episodes.  (There was ROPE in the back!)  I also noticed the rear seat is in there still...  why?  They must not be carrying much food or supplies.  Speaking of rope, why did he cut the rope up.  Looks like he used just as much rope making those loops then if he would have just knotted the whole thing and wrapped the tire in rope.

Oh and having to ride the brakes with the clutch in seems a bit dubious.  Let the engine and gears do their thing and ride the brake if you have to.  No reason to ride the brake and clutch.

[sharpxmen]

how did they hold the tire in?

and wtf, did they say he killed pple with his bare hands, are they on drugs or something?

[Jeffy]

how did they hold the tire in?

and wtf, did they say he killed pple with his bare hands, are they on drugs or something?

They didn't.  They used a log as a drag cart.

Oh, that's my interpretation.  Gary is ex-SAS from what they said.  I'm sure he knows what he's doing.  Bill just seems to like to complain about everything He kinda reminds me of Russell from Pixar's UP!.  he gives asians a bad name.  Always wanting steak and not wanting to walk 2ft.

[Jeffy]

I was told that the Tj doesn't have a locker so that makes it more perplexing.  How did Bill manage to break the Dana 35 on an open diff on ice?  Think he rode the brake while throttling?  I can't imagine there being enough grip to stop both rear tires.  Most of the brakes I've seen are usually from too much throttle with the tire in the air then it catches.  The D35 is weak but I haven't seen one break on an open diff.  It's usually with a locker.

[chardrc]

Bill is complete tool. Took 2 days to come up with the 'great idea" to pull the wheel off and tie a log under the axle... bill seems to not know how to use a clutch with all the jerking he did. I like how he set the barking break when trying to push the axel backin so they had to fight the brake pads. Anyone else notice they switched from alterans to km2s between episodes?

[stan98tj]

The jeep was def open diff the whole time. No locker.
A while back a guy i met at a local Jeep meet invited me to check out Forbidden Jeeps on Facebook. While I'm not really a fan of their page they seem to have a vast number of members. One of them claims to have been a tech/prep guy on the show and helped equip the Jeep. Basically said they were given a list of parts to install: 31 MTs, OME 2" kit and winch. They gave advice where they though the Jeep could be improved and some of their advice was taken, some wasn't.

As far as busting the axle, he prob busted it before heading downhill. Although, could it have busted while he was on the brakes and the tire was maybe still turning and then snagged a rock which abruptly stopped the wheel?

[neale_rs]

Finally got to see it on youtube.  Bill sure complains a lot.  Like Gary said "he needs to man up"!  It is an entertaining program though. It was actually a good case study on what to expect if your D35 axle breaks.

[Jeffy]

From One Car Too Far's FB.

The jeep is a 2002 4 cylinder 5 speed manual . The only modifications done are: 2" suspension lift, snorkel with breather tubes for the diffs, 33" tires, and winch

[FourbangerYJ]

Those tiny drum brakes are not strong enough to snap a axle, let alone going down hill.

Has anyone heard of a axle breaking with a open diff?

[Jeffy]

Bill is complete tool. Took 2 days to come up with the 'great idea" to pull the wheel off and tie a log under the axle... bill seems to not know how to use a clutch with all the jerking he did. I like how he set the barking break when trying to push the axel backin so they had to fight the brake pads. Anyone else notice they switched from alterans to km2s between episodes?

I went back and watched the show.  The tires in the beginning are MT/KM2's.  Although AT's might have done better in the ice and snow.

Those tiny drum brakes are not strong enough to snap a axle, let alone going down hill.

Has anyone heard of a axle breaking with a open diff?

I'm sure it happens but I haven't come across one.  Usually it's the spider or side gears that go from the tube flexing.  I wonder if all the side stepping caused it to break.

As I was re-watching it, I noticed Gary made snow blindness goggles from the visor.  They made no mention of it winch I thinks is unfortunate.

[chardrc]

I wonder if Bill was gunning it in the deap snow and got some major axle hop / shuttering which could have stressed out the shaft and the side step going down the hill took the last straw

[Jeffy]

Well they just posted this on FB;

what 4x4 would you like on season 2? where in the world would you like episodes to be filmed and what are the top and unique trail fixes you would like to see?

This makes me think they staged it.   

[FourbangerYJ]

Well they just posted this on FB;

This makes me think they staged it.   

I don't think you can snap a axle shaft and not know about it. Gary hopped out to have a look and discovered the tire/wheel/axle combo hanging way out.
There had to be a loud pop when it let go.
I said it before...rigged.

[FourbangerYJ]

"Who knew you could burn poop?"