I got my fronts done friday night. well saterday morning I had to let the por15 dry. I decided to use the zip ties..less metal to rust...easy on and off for trtails,cleanup and gretting that god forsaken salt out after snowfalls...plus if I f-up and rub them the ties will hopefully snap before anything else. If someone can PM there email I can post my after pics you know since I am a computer dunce. :oops: