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Offline Tr00b

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Re: Thats not good... frame rust
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2013, 09:42:34 PM »
Haha... just try to look for a reasonably priced builder jeep. Even 4 cyl. Its not a rewarding. process. and what's worse is I still would like a truck. So when I get done with a frame off I'm still still stuck with not having a truck... frame off or back halving the frame are going to be too expensive.

The local hardcore hardcore real Jeep dealer around here, Louisburg Garage said they use the Saf-T-Cap frame patch pieces i believe they are the same as in your link Neale. They feel the frame is as strong or stronger than oem after the install and they install them on a regular basis.

My friend that fixes frames doesn't want to fix my jeep he wants to buy it. He wrecked his car last week and wants a plow/snow jeep. I don't know what mine is wo:rth but 3500ish sounds fair to me. Going to discuss repair or sell tomorrow... and I'll take the money and buy a truck. Maybe.

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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2013, 11:30:15 PM »
Honestly, I'd probably sell it and get your truck.  Your friend has the skill to fix it for cheap.  You can still wheel a truck too.  We won't hold it against you either.
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Re: Thats not good... frame rust
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2013, 07:53:50 AM »
My vote is for a Jeep pickup!
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Re: Thats not good... frame rust
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2013, 12:30:34 PM »
My vote is for a Jeep pickup!
Seeing as how much rust his TJ has I bet it's hard to find anything older without rust.
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Re: Thats not good... frame rust
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2013, 12:57:47 PM »
Buy one from the Southwest.
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Re: Thats not good... frame rust
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2013, 02:21:25 PM »
I don't know what mine is wo:rth but 3500ish sounds fair to me. Going to discuss repair or sell tomorrow... and I'll take the money and buy a truck. Maybe.

If you can get $3500 for a jeep in that condition, I've got one to sell him too ;)   I just paid $2500 for one with a nearly perfect frame and tub.
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Re: Thats not good... frame rust
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2013, 02:27:33 PM »
Buy one from the Southwest.
Would be a lot easier to get a Ford, Dodge or GM.  Cheap too.  Not to mention plenty of cheap parts.
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Re: Thats not good... frame rust
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2013, 05:13:06 PM »
Uh oh... sounds like my price expectation is unrealistic... Isn't that a surprise that I live in a mountain of sh*t and I ride around in a chariot pulled by flies. I am headed over there now to show him what is up with the jeep... see what he says.

There is a Comanche for sale locally on 33s but there isn't too much of it left. I am a really tall guy and need the seat bracket spacers and etc to fit in a TJ. Doubt I could fit in one.

For the farm I need anything 4wd that can pull a trailer. 4 low is big too. I can get by with another  4 cyl jeep... but i could do real well with a 1/2 ton... but  I want a 3/4 ton. If I had plenty of money and time I would fix up and modernize a Kaiser M715. If I had an ideal truck to buy with a loan it would be a 2006 ish F250 single cab long box manual 4 x 4 with a bulletproofed 6.0 (head studs egr delete turbo etc) or a 3v V10 with 4.30 gears. The v10 gets about 10 mpg whether you are running 1200 or 4000 rpms so the low gears are extremely desire able.

I don't know what I will end up with guys I may just sell the jeep cut the fenders on my Subaru and put 33s on it.

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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2013, 06:11:25 PM »
I'd look for a 1973–2000 Chevy C/K, 1962-1996 Ford F-series, or a 1981-93 Dodge Ram.  They're older but still have the classic truck look.  They're also very cheap and extremely simple to work on.  I'd probably lean towards the Chevy since they were the top sellers and have the longest run with minor changes.
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Re: Thats not good... frame rust
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2013, 01:25:13 PM »
Friend offered 3300. I'm pretty sure I'm going to accept.

i'm not finding much available for sale i can get excited about locally as far as trucks go. The ones that are nice are priced high... the ones that are reasonable are trashed or don't even run.

I could stomach an M1008 5/4 ton (k30/C30 with lockers 60/14 bolt and 456 gears and a diesel engine) so i can burn waste vegetable and motor. The price on them is out of sight too though... Going to call Boyce Equipment on Monday and see if they have something in my price range.

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Re: Thats not good... frame rust
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2013, 02:27:40 PM »
Friend offered 3300. I'm pretty sure I'm going to accept.

i'm not finding much available for sale i can get excited about locally as far as trucks go. The ones that are nice are priced high... the ones that are reasonable are trashed or don't even run.

I could stomach an M1008 5/4 ton (k30/C30 with lockers 60/14 bolt and 456 gears and a diesel engine) so i can burn waste vegetable and motor. The price on them is out of sight too though... Going to call Boyce Equipment on Monday and see if they have something in my price range.
Hmm, CUCV's are usually dirt cheap.  The only problem with then is that the 6.2L is a dog.  Only the M1008 will have the Detroit Locker in the rear.  Front is open still.  Interiors are rustic with a vinyl bench but you can swap in cloth easily ehough if you want.  It's going to be a 24v system but luckily all the interior voltage is 12V.
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Re: Thats not good... frame rust
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2013, 09:28:55 AM »
The Chevy pickups are cheap to wheel with decent aftermarket support.  My son has two K10s.  For example, he picked up a '78 Scottsdale with SM465, NP205, D44 front, 32" tires, 12 bolt rear with locker, aluminum tool box and a torquey 350 from a Uhaul truck for $1000, including a Holley Avenger carb.  He had to buy an intake and give the motor some love.  It's a lot of truck for $1300.

Here's good site for aftermarket parts: http://offroaddesign.com/

You can check the auctions, lots of CUCVs down at Aberdeen, MD.
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Re: Thats not good... frame rust
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2013, 12:36:11 PM »
Sigh... I live in NW Illinois. Trucks like that are either show trucks or a pile of red dust. Unfortunately because I don't have the time for a project it makes it tough.

 I have a 75 fOrd f250 highboy but it needs a cab swapand tthe cab I have needs work the PS system is gone and the motor needs exhaust manifolds.

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Re: Thats not good... frame rust
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2013, 02:21:17 PM »
Well weird turn of events. Friend found a nice TJ with a plow for 7500. So in leiu of not buying mine he's going to help me fix mine for cheap/ free. I'm going to fix the brakes at the same time do the pinion seal maybe a lunch box locker out back quick while the rear end is apart.

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Re: Thats not good... frame rust
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2013, 02:57:17 PM »
Sounds good.  Should be good for many more years.
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