Topic: a jeep a sleeper????

[superman1456]

hears a new one for you guys what do you think about makin a jeep a sleeper get back to me on this and let me know cuz i would love to know what you jeep guys out ther think about this one

[Crunch]

Had a Jeep keep up with my old Roots Supercharged Mustang off the line to about 300ft once.  Scared the shit out of me.

When a Jeep revs at your 11 second 'Stang at the light, you just don't think that they have a chance.   I was pretty surprised!

No idea what he had under there.  He hit a curb, and I kept going.

As for making a Jeep a 'sleeper', I have no idea.  Mine was 'sleeper' enough crawling all of the same obstacles my buddies with their 4.0L's were doing. :)

[superman1456]

ya but im lookin for like 600 hp out of my 4.5 so if you or anyone else has anyidea let me know

[Erik]

my 98 5.9 zj ran a 12.01 on the bottle.... 125 shot direct port.... never had any problems out of it... ever....  

-Erik <--- would have killed for those 2 hundreths of a second

[Guardian7]

Superman, I saw a sleeper on Autotrader.com listed in AZ being sold because the owner had rolled it and was asking $5000 as is. The only Jeep part left was the body, it had a new LS1 Vette engine and the entire drive train, axles, and frame had been replaced to handle major power! The jeep itself did not look bad and was still drivable. Looked like it just needed new hood, fenders, paint, and roll gage. Looking at the pictures I would have jumped on it if I had the doe because it had lots of money dumped into it and ran perfect. I also had a friend who build one years ago and he wrecked too, I dont think jeeps were designed to handle that kinda speed. Power for rock crawlin is great but jeeps dont hande high speeds well because of a short wheel base, square body, and height.

[Jesse-James]

http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/features/1999/03/

[dexetr30]

^^ That is a sick machine. I want it!  :twisted:

[chardrc]

Superman, I saw a sleeper on Autotrader.com listed in AZ being sold because the owner had rolled it and was asking $5000 as is. The only Jeep part left was the body, it had a new LS1 Vette engine and the entire drive train, axles, and frame had been replaced to handle major power! The jeep itself did not look bad and was still drivable. Looked like it just needed new hood, fenders, paint, and roll gage. Looking at the pictures I would have jumped on it if I had the doe because it had lots of money dumped into it and ran perfect. I also had a friend who build one years ago and he wrecked too, I dont think jeeps were designed to handle that kinda speed. Power for rock crawlin is great but jeeps dont hande high speeds well because of a short wheel base, square body, and height.

thats the right way t put a corvette motor in a jeep... i know a guy that has a corvette motor in his cj2a.. so ya it has alot of power but that v8 is conected to a totaly stock drivetrain... well except for lockers in the back... the next worse thing is he drives it hard and if everything wasnt new he would have ripped up his entire drive train by now... im estimating he has about 1 or 2 more trips left in it befor he brakes something bad...
but it does look cool..

that viper v10 jeep looks sweet

[rob15b10]

when i got back from Iraq, I bought a 1999 wrangler se. Drove it straight to my uncles house in NC. Took a 351,  and 9 inch out of his 78 van. scavenged a tranny from a local junk yard, and rebuilt it. had an adapter made for the np231, rear driveshaft shortened, locked the rear and front, added 456 gears. I had alot of help from my uncle, we did most of the work ourselves. it took about 10 days. the d30 is holding up pretty well, but when i get back from afghanistan, i plan on putting in a d44 front. also thinking about changing the gears to 488. with 35's i can still roast all 4 with ease. I have no problem keeping up with most stangs' and camaros' not far behind the vettes'. im pretty sure if i switch the gears to 488 i will beat most of them. :twisted: [/u][/b]

[chrisfranklin]

Even a Supercharged 4.0 is pretty quick.  Don't know numbers, but a guy I knew back east had a SC Renegade automatic that was pretty darn fast.  Was about as quick as a Vanilla Ice-era 5.0 Mustang    

Like the AEV Hemi conversions, just not the price.  Last time I was out at 4xDoctors in Burbank they were doing an LS1 swap in to an old Jeep Commando (?) which looked sweet -- was probably for Jay Leno or somebody.  

Put a V8/V10 in my YJ4 5spd and its stock transmission and drive-train would probably just see the torque coming and collapse in to metal dust to save time.    

My YJ crawls ok, but she's so slow that kids on ten-speeds draft off her before passing.  

[Jeffy]

Here's a question, if it's a Jeep, why does it need a big engine to be a sleeper?

Huge amounts of hp under the hood isn't always that good on the trail.  Look at most of the moon buggies.  Most of them are running 4bangers because of the huge weight advantage.  The Viper V-10 was done years ago and that Jeep was on ebay recently.  A better swap that I've seen is a Magnum V-10.  The current Hemi is nice since with the engine management, it's able to shut down to 4 cylinders when you don't need the extra power.  This is one of the main reasons they are putting it in so many cars.  GM also has this technology and has been using it for years in their Catallics.  They only receltly started using it in all of their trucks.

  Now if I was going to do a swap, and I could choose anything, I'd go diesel.

I found this tidbit on another forum:

In California, this is true if you're swapping from one gas engine to another, or from diesel to gas. But if you're swapping from gas to diesel, there's no restriction on what model year vehicle the engine comes from.

There's lots of conflicting information on this topic. Many officials will give you incorrect info, because the vast majority of inquiries they receive are regarding gas-to-gas swaps. However, if you have someone at the DMV look at the printed regulations regarding gas-to-diesel conversions, you will find that there are very few restrictions. Additionally, I have read first-hand reports from people who have done diesel swaps in California and can confirm that the paperwork at the DMV is very easy and hassle-free. Check here:

http://www.toyotadiesel.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=364

Also a longer discussion of this topic here:

http://www.toyotadiesel.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1280

Now if that's true, it would make swapping engines a whole lot easier and a goal of +30mpg doable.  Cummins 4BT would be a sweet engine and is used in many swaps.  It's 700lbs though.  Lots of 'half-cut's come in from Japan though.  That would be 4's and 6's...  ALthough I could care less in beating a corvette or camero as long as I can run rings around the guy running the V8 on the trail.

[chardrc]

2 things about diesils..

1 they are heavy so inless its a 4banger diesil its going to make you very heavy for mud and such..

and 2.. at least in minnesota they changed the diesil requiernments so basicly diesils in 07 and newer vehiculs will have catalyic converters so they will be restricted to hell like gas motors.. so that gas to diesil swap with no restrictions could change soon to have an 07 model seperating point...

darn gov adn their restrictions on motors :angry:  :2guns:  

[Jeffy]

2 things about diesils..

1 they are heavy so inless its a 4banger diesil its going to make you very heavy for mud and such..

and 2.. at least in minnesota they changed the diesil requiernments so basicly diesils in 07 and newer vehiculs will have catalyic converters so they will be restricted to hell like gas motors.. so that gas to diesil swap with no restrictions could change soon to have an 07 model seperating point...

darn gov adn their restrictions on motors :angry:  :2guns:  

The 4BT seems to be only 100lbs heavier then some V8's.  I'm not sure about the Toyota's though I'm sure they weigh less.

'07 regulations won't matter since the engine won't be that new. Unless you're rich and have a shop doing all the work.  Currently, according to other people who have done the swap and reregistered, there is no inpection since the swap between gas to diesel is not often done nor are the rules very clear.  A few people have walked into CA DMV and signed a form that states they did the swap and that's about it.  Although they are using half-cur toyota's which makes the swap 100% easier.  Still, using a stand alone diesel would be interesting.

[chardrc]

ya it will take a while to change but ya shouldnt mater because its not that new.. and ya the toyota motors are proably lighter and smaller cuz thats what toyota it..

[superman1456]

i love the idea of a v10 but dam thats to much even for me but i just whant to wip them dam imports with no strain on me nor the moter that would be nice