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Offline dexetr30

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« on: August 14, 2006, 08:16:00 AM »
Ok, I took some time to throw it all together yesterday afternoon. Here is what I've got.

This is the overall picture. I used some 3 inch pvc pipe, two rubber 90 degree bends with hose clamps and a cheep reusable air filter from pep boys. I'll replace the filter in the future with a K&N.


I used a 6 inch and 4 inch hose clamp to attach the filter end to the support rod that runs across the engine bay. That way the filter end of the intake isn't just flopping around aimlessly under the hood.


This image is without the crancase ventilation hose hooked up yet. I just slid the 90 degree rubber bend over the exsisting rubber boot that the original air box was connected to on top of the throttle body. The other way it could be done is to carefully slice the wide end of the elbow right where it tapers to the smaller diameter and then connect the smaller section that's left to the throttle body. I hope this makes some sort of sense. I'm not good at explaining this stuff, just doing it.


In the end it has a crisper throttle response on the bottom end from a dead stop. It pulls a bit better all the way up to about 3500 rpm. It does seem to be getting a bit to much air for the size of the throttle body though. We'll see how it performs after I get a 4.0l throttle body on it within the next few months. It was worth the work and it sounds pretty cool. However, I do think that the next time I build one of these I will make it from 2.75 i.d. exhaust tubing. 3 inch works fine but for the 2.5l engine with stock size throttle body and stock exhaust it's does seem like I'd get better response from a bit smaller size tubing. I could be wrong though. It's a learning process. :thumb:
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2006, 12:58:39 PM »
is that carb legal??? :P

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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2006, 01:21:20 PM »
Ya know, I'm really not sure. I'm not up on the emissions laws even in my own state.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2006, 02:06:56 PM »
Problem I see is that it's going to suck up a lot of hot air without any baffels to seperate the engine and radiator heat from the intake.  I believe some of the hottest air gets stuck in the front corners.  You might also want to heat shield the PVC.  Depending on what type you bought, it might dryrot and crack over time.  You'd also be able to shorten the whole thing if you were able to keep it on the driver side.

You will need to run it for a few weeks before being able to tell any difference.  It's still running as if the air box was there and should take a while to relearn.

Here's something un related.  Why is your vacuum line to the brake booster wrapped up like a ? mark?
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2006, 03:28:50 PM »
Jeffy, I was actually thinking of cutting it a bit shorter and swinging it to the drivers side. My reason for this is that long piece of pvc has got to be slowing the air down (because of it's length) on it's way to the throttle body. I'm still considering replacing the pvc pipe with some galvanized or maybe even some aluminum if I can find it cheep enough. You're probably right about the baffles being needed. For some reason I didn't even think of that.

After I installed the whole thing, I disconnected the negative battery terminal and turned the key forward in hopes that doing so would reset the ecm to some point.

As far as the brake booster line...  :nothing: It was like that when I bought the Jeep and I didn't even notice it until I posted those pictures. Now it's driv'n me nuts. I'll have to cut it and slide it back on the correct way when I get a chance.
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2006, 05:01:15 PM »
I'd just rotate it it's at 9 o'clock  The extra is fine especially if you plan on doing a body lift later on.
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2006, 05:24:17 PM »
Hmmm, 9 o'clock may give me a bit of trouble when accesing the oil filler cap. then again, it sits high enough that it just may not. I'll give it a shot.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2006, 05:36:14 PM »
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Ya know, I'm really not sure. I'm not up on the emissions laws even in my own state.
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2006, 05:39:21 PM »
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Hmmm, 9 o'clock may give me a bit of trouble when accesing the oil filler cap. then again, it sits high enough that it just may not. I'll give it a shot.


No, I meant the brake booster vacuum line.
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2006, 05:56:49 PM »
Got it. Yeah, I was looking at body lifts today and found one I really liked. Just a heads up... I'm more than likely going to get pizza cutters when it comes time for the tires. Don't worry though, I'll be making fun of myself also. :wink:
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2006, 10:46:34 AM »
Have any ideas on best way to make baffles around the filter?

I attached a Rock-it tube and cone filter to the end of my stock hose and it ends a lot like dexetr30's.  I didn't just using the Rock-it tube because it was to loud for the wife.  :evil:  It also seemed to get real hot sitting over the engine.  I like using the stock tube and the rather just the straight Rock-it tube because it does hang further right then the PVC and is already designed to be there.
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2006, 12:42:19 PM »
hmm...does anyone know if a stock 4.0 tube will fit in place of the 2.5?
on a TJ I mean, I have been wondering about this.

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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2006, 01:28:45 PM »
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hmm...does anyone know if a stock 4.0 tube will fit in place of the 2.5?
on a TJ I mean, I have been wondering about this.


Yes, it will work on the 2.5L.  The only reason the 2.5L has a different air tube is for noise.
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2006, 01:39:29 PM »
Quote from: "Jeffy"
Quote from: "gomi"
hmm...does anyone know if a stock 4.0 tube will fit in place of the 2.5?
on a TJ I mean, I have been wondering about this.


Yes, it will work on the 2.5L.  The only reason the 2.5L has a different air tube is for noise.

really? that's it? A guy from my gym just got an intake for his 4.0 and mentioned that I could have his old stock on if I wanted. maybe I'll try a home made intake of my own and post some pics up. thanks.

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2006, 02:20:18 PM »
Holly crap!!! Why didn't I just do that to begin with?! Ok, now I have to go to the scrap yard and find a stock 4.0 liter intake tube and junk the pvc.:asshat:
Ok, in my defense... It's been years since I was under the hood of a 4 liter. I completely forgot how simple the intake rounting is on those engine. Oh well, I did say it was a learning process. :lol:
Look at how much that tube simplifies things::oops:
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