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Offline 95 Lowbuck

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On Board Air
« on: May 03, 2008, 03:39:44 PM »
Has anybody converted the A.C. pump to onboard air pump?
Is it worth it, or should I just spring for the York kit?
Don't need alot of full time air, just air up at the end of the day.
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Re: On Board Air
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2008, 04:03:00 PM »
Guy in my club has been using the stock sanden for years, just need to remember to toss some oil in once a year and it seems to work fine.
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Re: On Board Air
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2008, 05:39:10 PM »
I've had a York on my Jeep for years.  BTW, a York is an A/C Pump.  It's fast and if you have 35's or even 33's, it will fill them up fast.  Find a York in a JY and buy the Kilby bracket for $35.  You can find everything else at the hardware store.  Keep in mind you'll still be spending $50-100 on a tank, and all of the small bits, but it's worth it.
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Offline 95 Lowbuck

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Re: On Board Air
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2008, 06:49:21 AM »
I know the York is the better pump, but the stock A.C pump
is smaller, will bolt to the stock bracket, and I can use a stock belt.
The down side is they are not self lubricating like a York.
I was just wondering if the A.C. pump put out enough C.F.M.
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D30, XJ D44, Truetracs F+R, CV D.S. F+R, 4.88's
R.E. 4" STD., 33-10.50 BFG KO2's on stock rims.

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Re: On Board Air
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2008, 07:17:18 AM »
Yorks put out 6,8 or 10 cfm depending on which one you get.  A sanden puts out 8 or 9 cfm depending on which one you have.
Chuck P
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Re: On Board Air
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2008, 11:58:01 AM »
I know the York is the better pump, but the stock A.C pump
is smaller, will bolt to the stock bracket, and I can use a stock belt.
The down side is they are not self lubricating like a York.
I was just wondering if the A.C. pump put out enough C.F.M.


If you have neither then it won't really matter,  The only different is it costs $35 for the bracket on the York, but you'll need to run an in-line oiler and separator on the Sanden since it doesn't have an oil slump.  The York will run a 6 groove serpentine belt and unless you already have A/C, you'll still need to buy a new belt. ($20)
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Offline 95 Lowbuck

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Re: On Board Air
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2008, 01:30:06 PM »
Thanks for the info,
I realize I would have to buy a new "A.C." fan belt with the stock pump,
and just taking a quick glance at the Mc Master Carr catalog,
the oiler and seperator look a little pricey.
More than the extra money a York would cost.
Any ideas of where to buy these cheaper?
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D30, XJ D44, Truetracs F+R, CV D.S. F+R, 4.88's
R.E. 4" STD., 33-10.50 BFG KO2's on stock rims.

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Re: On Board Air
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2008, 01:44:18 PM »
York's you should be able to find at the Junkyard, its a tough compressor and was widely used on domestic cars and trucks as well as big rigs. These days the sanden compressor is pretty much displacing them
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Re: On Board Air
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2008, 01:59:39 PM »
You can get an oiler and filter for about $12.  McMaster is the wrong place to look for pretty much anything if you want a good price.

Something like this would work fine.
http://cgi.ebay.com/PARKER-COMPRESSED-AIR-OILER-FILTER-NEW_W0QQitemZ180237170944QQihZ008QQcategoryZ46575QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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94 YJ - gone
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97 TJ - daughters project

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Re: On Board Air
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2008, 06:47:02 PM »
What filters are people using on there York oba?

Offline 95 Lowbuck

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Re: On Board Air
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2008, 06:58:10 PM »
I think they are using just an air filter on the intake side,
and maybe a water seperator after the pump.
The sanden needs oil going in and a filter to take it out
after the pump.
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D30, XJ D44, Truetracs F+R, CV D.S. F+R, 4.88's
R.E. 4" STD., 33-10.50 BFG KO2's on stock rims.

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Re: On Board Air
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2008, 07:49:57 PM »
I run an actual compressor filter.  It keeps the noise level down as well as keeps water out.
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Re: On Board Air
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2008, 08:24:33 PM »
What filters are people using on there York oba?

None. The air tank is my "filter". I put the tank with a drain cock at the lowest point so that all of the junk could collect at the bottom of the tank. It is simple and cheap. It is the same way the railroads used to do it. If you are interested, I can get pics of my setup for you...

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Re: On Board Air
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2008, 10:15:50 PM »
None. The air tank is my "filter". I put the tank with a drain cock at the lowest point so that all of the junk could collect at the bottom of the tank. It is simple and cheap. It is the same way the railroads used to do it. If you are interested, I can get pics of my setup for you...

I believe he means on the intake side of the compressor.
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Offline dragon51

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Re: On Board Air
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2008, 09:20:22 PM »
None. The air tank is my "filter". I put the tank with a drain cock at the lowest point so that all of the junk could collect at the bottom of the tank. It is simple and cheap. It is the same way the railroads used to do it. If you are interested, I can get pics of my setup for you...

That sounds interesting I would like to see that setup. The tank I got only has one port yea I know it's not as efficient but it still gets the job done. I know that there is oil in the tank so that drain cock sounds like it will work for my setup. 

As for the filter I was talking about for catching the oil that comes out of the York the one that is linked to the ebay add is similar to the ones I have seen at harbor freight.