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jcoleman

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I just finished acting as a shuttle for a school group where I had about 6 to seven people in the jeep. This was only for a grand total of maybe 15 minutes. however, after doing so, my jeep now pulls to the left when I brake, and when I'm driving or accelerating it pulls to the right. It did not occur at all before the shuttling. what could it be and how might I go about fixing it?

thanks again,

by the way, I just got back from Mexico which is why I haven't been posting much for the past month.

jake

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I just finished acting as a shuttle for a school group where I had about 6 to seven people in the jeep. This was only for a grand total of maybe 15 minutes. however, after doing so, my jeep now pulls to the left when I brake, and when I'm driving or accelerating it pulls to the right. It did not occur at all before the shuttling. what could it be and how might I go about fixing it?

thanks again,

by the way, I just got back from Mexico which is why I haven't been posting much for the past month.

jake

That's called bumpsteer.
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jcoleman

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i'll check that out in the morning. I just realized I hit a speed bump while turning. I hit it funny and fast because it snuck up on me in the dark.  I didn't think about it being the issue because I had like 800lbs of extra weight in my jeep, so that attracted the majority of my attention.

thanks much jeffy.

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odd update. the bumpsteer was almost non existent today. Any ideas what might cause it to be so bad last night and by morning be gone? I understand it may have to do with the track bar? But for it to be intermittent is weird.

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odd update. the bumpsteer was almost non existent today. Any ideas what might cause it to be so bad last night and by morning be gone? I understand it may have to do with the track bar? But for it to be intermittent is weird.

If your Jeep was fully loaded, the additional weight probably contributed to it.

Track bars should help bump steer since the track-bar shoves the axle over slightly in the direction that the drag-link needs to go.  It's hard to explain but if you measure the distance between the drag-link and the end of the tie-rod, then measure it when the suspension is compressed and again when it is extended, you'll end up with 3 different numbers.  When it compresses the length is shortened when it is lengthened when the suspension is extended.  Since the drag-link cannot extend and contract, something has to give and that's why it turns.

So this is why the track bar needs to run parallel with the drag-link.  As the suspension compressed, the track-bar forces the axle ever so slightly to shift so the distance between the drag-link and the tie-rod stays the same.

Now why did it all of a sudden happen when you had a fully loaded Jeep.  Well that's because the springs you have are a bit stiff when no one else is in it so the suspension doesn't move nearly as much.  With more weight, it loads the springs and as the weight shifts forward, it causes the suspension to sag more.

Also, bump steer depends on the speed you're going.  If you're braking hard at a higher speed, the weight will shift more and you'll have exaggerated bump steer.  So you hitting the speed bump at a fast speed probably contributed to it as well.
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With the extra weight added to your rig it takes a bit more effort to start and stop. Your front left calliper is closes to your master cylinder there for it will recive the first burst of brake fliud when you hit the brakes. Having a bit more weight will cause you to press the brake pedal a bit harder than norm. You really notice this effect under agressive braking. Sometimes it will happen and sometimes it will not. Depends on your basic princapale of hydraulics. With it steering to the right when you hit the gas is called torque steer. Ever seen a drag race car twist when he launches? Same thing your gettin. The amount of torque and power you apply to the driveline is overcomming the strenght of your frame. Or you just have something loose in the rear side but I think you would hear that.
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This happened to me.  It was the right caliper getting stuck making the brakes get really hot on that side, you could feel the whole wheel was hot.  When you brake the non-hot left side brakes better and pulls to the left.  When accelerating the stuck caliper drags on the right making it pull to the right.  This happened just once, I greased the caliper slide bolts and it has never happened again.
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It could also be the piston itself getting stuck.
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alright cool.  now I remember why i love this forum. So far it hasn't acted up again.  All those explanations sound logical.  I'll keep you guys updated if the problem decides to rear it's ugly head.

again thanks very much.
jake