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the cherokee
« on: August 05, 2008, 01:09:40 PM »
hi im all new to this jeep stuff so ill start by introducing myself. my name is dan and i rescued my 95 limited cherokee from a woman using it for work it has not been looked after too well and i am just trying to get it running well and to get everything working like it should. so here goes:

1.There is a computer/readout style thing on the roof that tells me which direction im facing but also shows 'SC' next to it i think this should be the temp if so can this be fixed.

2.there is also a black bubble on the roof between the front and back interior lights, what is this?

3.the main thing is the 4WD is faulty as when it is engaged it violently bangs when the car moves. like something is bent and when it gets to a certain point it hits something on every revolution this can both be felt and heard.

4.the last silly little thing is the clock on the dashboard, when the lights are put on the thing resets the time as this is not affecting anything seriously it is quite annoying.

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Re: the cherokee
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 03:42:45 PM »
hi im all new to this jeep stuff so ill start by introducing myself. my name is dan and i rescued my 95 limited cherokee from a woman using it for work it has not been looked after too well and i am just trying to get it running well and to get everything working like it should. so here goes:

1.There is a computer/readout style thing on the roof that tells me which direction im facing but also shows 'SC' next to it i think this should be the temp if so can this be fixed.

2.there is also a black bubble on the roof between the front and back interior lights, what is this?

3.the main thing is the 4WD is faulty as when it is engaged it violently bangs when the car moves. like something is bent and when it gets to a certain point it hits something on every revolution this can both be felt and heard.

4.the last silly little thing is the clock on the dashboard, when the lights are put on the thing resets the time as this is not affecting anything seriously it is quite annoying.

1.Lets see the temp computer is on the celling console.  So if you take that down you should see it.

2.The black thing is the temp sensor.

3.Are you shifting it into 4WD HI or LO?  It should be Shift-on-the-fly in 4WD HI but 4WD Lo is not synchronized and will make noise if you're going over 5mph.  I think by '94 Xj's were sans disconnect on the front axle.  You can check the front housing on the passenger side to see is there is a vacuum motor there.  Also, make sure your transfer case has oil.  In 2WD, you won't notice much but in 4WD, if it's really low or even empty, it will cause heat to build up and the chain could stretch and jump or eventually break.

Not sure about the clock, but I'd guess something's wired wrong.  Is it a stock stereo?
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Re: the cherokee
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2008, 02:32:09 AM »
thanks it is not a stock stereo, but it is pap and will be getting changed in the future.

the 4WD i am engaging at a standstill then as soon as i set off it just starts violently banging and the faster i go the louder and faster the banging is. i have only driven about 20 meters in 4WD thats how bad it is. oh and the other thing is that the thrust bearing is on its way out could this be anything to do with it?

ill check out the ceiling console today

thanks

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Re: the cherokee
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2008, 04:22:46 AM »
thanks it is not a stock stereo, but it is pap and will be getting changed in the future.

the 4WD i am engaging at a standstill then as soon as i set off it just starts violently banging and the faster i go the louder and faster the banging is. i have only driven about 20 meters in 4WD thats how bad it is. oh and the other thing is that the thrust bearing is on its way out could this be anything to do with it?

ill check out the ceiling console today

thanks

I'd stop messing with 4wd on.  Sounds like either the chain is broken or really stretched out badly.  Either way it's probabally contacting the side of the case.
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Re: the cherokee
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2008, 04:26:25 AM »
if its the chain is that an expensive job at a garage and would it be better to get that done the same time as the clutch.
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Re: the cherokee
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2008, 05:45:40 AM »
if its the chain is that an expensive job at a garage and would it be better to get that done the same time as the clutch.
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If it's the chain you're better off buying a rebuild kit and new chain and doing it yourself.   It's a simple job that a shop will charge an arm and a leg for.   Otherwise, you might want to find a good tcase to swap in.    The cost of having a shop do a clutch job and rebuild a transfercase will exceed the value of a 95 Cherokee.
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Re: the cherokee
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2008, 10:02:11 AM »
The transfer case is a relatively easy rebuild, I do them all the time and would do yours if you were close to St. Louis.  Chains run a little over $100 themselves.

Check out www.4wd.com , you can find all the parts to rebuild a transfer case.

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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 11:12:31 AM »
Better off getting rebuild parts from a drivetrain store.  They cost less than if you buy them from the bolt on part resellers.
http://www.nationaldrivetrain.com
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Re: the cherokee
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2008, 12:00:19 PM »
I just checked it just out of curiosity and it is $105 on 4wd and $76 from the other vendor.  Pretty big difference.
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2008, 01:50:52 PM »
cheers guys. so what is required to do the t-box, and iv had a quote for the clutch and it is $600.
i could probably do the clutch myself but iv been told its a big heavy beast.

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Re: the cherokee
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2008, 02:28:45 PM »
cheers guys. so what is required to do the t-box, and iv had a quote for the clutch and it is $600.
i could probably do the clutch myself but iv been told its a big heavy beast.

I have not done the clutch on the Jeep yet, so I am by no means an expert, but the PITA of changing the clutch is that you have to drop the transmission.  The TC, you can probably do the chain while opening just the rear part (I had to take the chain out when I did my SYE, and I kept it in place), which is easy to do.

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Re: the cherokee
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2008, 02:54:59 PM »
I have not done the clutch on the Jeep yet, so I am by no means an expert, but the PITA of changing the clutch is that you have to drop the transmission.  The TC, you can probably do the chain while opening just the rear part (I had to take the chain out when I did my SYE, and I kept it in place), which is easy to do.

Felipe

DO it the right way and remove the whole transfercase.  If you are doing a complete rebuild it's the only way to do it.
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Re: the cherokee
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2008, 10:48:48 PM »
A few things you need to rebuild the transfer case:
Lock ring pliers, different from o-ring pliers as they have knurled tips similar to a ducks bill.
10mm 12pt. socket for one of the case bolts on top, replace with a 15mm bolt if you can find an extra one.
1 1/4" socket for the front output yoke.

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Re: the cherokee
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2008, 11:05:38 PM »
If you choose to do it yourself, invest either a FULL day, or a couple afternoons, and make sure you have a friend!

My dad and I pulled it in maybe two hours, but we also bought a transmission jack (which I HIGHLY recommend!). Getting it lined up properly for installation was a PITA, took probably six hours (also had horrible problems with bleeding the clutch! ... and still do...).

It's actually nothing special to just do the clutch, just make sure you have an impact gun to remove the flywheel and a torque wrench to install it, as well as a great assortment of sockets and extensions.

I have no clue about the T-case though, never touched the inside of mine, although I know snap/lock ring pliers will come in handy! (as previously stated)