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jetcracker82

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New/future project
« on: September 10, 2008, 11:07:31 AM »
So I’m in Iraq right now, and we all know that us retarded Jarheads get all kinds of money when we deploy.  Well I just reenlisted over here and got a pretty nice (tax free) chunk of Uncle Sam.  After investing a ridiculous amount of money and putting some aside for an “exotic vacation” when I get back.  I had a little bit more left over and the wife gave me the go-a-head to do pretty much what I want (can afford).  So here it is in all its glory.
Custom Dana 60 rear w/ Detroit Locker
Custom Dana 44 front w/ Detroit Locker
High steer set up
Rubicon Spring over conversion (front and rear)
35” BFG MTR’s
4.88 gears (don’t hate on the gear size a v8 swap is coming soon enough)
Swing away tire carrier/rear bumper
E-fan
Ugrading the brake booster as well
I’m sticking with drums in the rear but they will be upgraded to full size truck drums
I’ll be getting new finder flares but haven’t decided on what kind either Bushwacker or something else,
And probably a new paint job.
The company that is making my axles and doing most of the work is called MIT out of El Cajon CA.  The staff is great and the owner is a complete jeep nerd which is exactly who I want working on my pile.  They’ve been more than helpful to me especially being over here.  The wife even agreed to take it down before I get home so I’ll have a really nice “welcome back from you year in a sh!t-hole” present.   I’m sure most of you will haze the crap out of me for most of the things I’m wanting, and I’m sure everyone will have a different opinion but that will make for a “fun” conversation.:stick:


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Re: New/future project
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2008, 11:12:50 AM »
With the kind of money that list will cost, you could buy a rig that is already built up and has a v8.
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Re: New/future project
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2008, 11:20:10 AM »
Sounds good.  A hydraulic ram assist for the steering would be a good idea with the front locker and large tires.  Also, you might consider selectable lockers because automatic lockers can make you slide sideways on off camber slopes.  I've seen locked Jeeps fail to cross some off camber obstacles where open diff Jeeps got through fairly easily.



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Re: New/future project
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2008, 11:27:39 AM »
Congrats on the enlistment bonus and thanks for doing what you do.  Your wife is greatly appreciated for her sacrifice as well.

Why did you opt for custom d44 for the front instead of the much stronger d60?  You're building a custom axle either way, and the d60 leaves room for a lot more drivetrain options down the road, will handle big power.

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Re: New/future project
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2008, 11:31:06 AM »
Why did you opt for custom d44 for the front instead of the much stronger d60? 

Pretty much it would have been retarded expensive with the D60 both front and rear.  If I feel like I need a D60 later on I'll probaby try to build on myself...or reenlist again, lol :thumb:

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Re: New/future project
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2008, 02:11:37 PM »
So I’m in Iraq right now, and we all know that us retarded Jarheads get all kinds of money when we deploy.  Well I just reenlisted over here and got a pretty nice (tax free) chunk of Uncle Sam.  After investing a ridiculous amount of money and putting some aside for an “exotic vacation” when I get back.  I had a little bit more left over and the wife gave me the go-a-head to do pretty much what I want (can afford).  So here it is in all its glory.
Custom Dana 60 rear w/ Detroit Locker
Custom Dana 44 front w/ Detroit Locker
High steer set up
Rubicon Spring over conversion (front and rear)
35” BFG MTR’s
4.88 gears (don’t hate on the gear size a v8 swap is coming soon enough)
Swing away tire carrier/rear bumper
E-fan
Ugrading the brake booster as well
I’m sticking with drums in the rear but they will be upgraded to full size truck drums
I’ll be getting new finder flares but haven’t decided on what kind either Bushwacker or something else,
And probably a new paint job.
The company that is making my axles and doing most of the work is called MIT out of El Cajon CA.  The staff is great and the owner is a complete jeep nerd which is exactly who I want working on my pile.  They’ve been more than helpful to me especially being over here.  The wife even agreed to take it down before I get home so I’ll have a really nice “welcome back from you year in a sh!t-hole” present.   I’m sure most of you will haze the crap out of me for most of the things I’m wanting, and I’m sure everyone will have a different opinion but that will make for a “fun” conversation.:stick:

Been there, done that.... :roflol:

and "yeah, you guys" on the 4.88's...they'll be perfect when my V8 goes in... :guns:
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Re: New/future project
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2008, 04:34:39 PM »
So I’m in Iraq right now, and we all know that us retarded Jarheads get all kinds of money when we deploy.  Well I just reenlisted over here and got a pretty nice (tax free) chunk of Uncle Sam.  After investing a ridiculous amount of money and putting some aside for an “exotic vacation” when I get back.  I had a little bit more left over and the wife gave me the go-a-head to do pretty much what I want (can afford).  So here it is in all its glory.
Custom Dana 60 rear w/ Detroit Locker
Custom Dana 44 front w/ Detroit Locker
High steer set up
Rubicon Spring over conversion (front and rear)
35” BFG MTR’s
4.88 gears (don’t hate on the gear size a v8 swap is coming soon enough)
Swing away tire carrier/rear bumper
E-fan
Ugrading the brake booster as well
I’m sticking with drums in the rear but they will be upgraded to full size truck drums
I’ll be getting new finder flares but haven’t decided on what kind either Bushwacker or something else,
And probably a new paint job.
The company that is making my axles and doing most of the work is called MIT out of El Cajon CA.  The staff is great and the owner is a complete jeep nerd which is exactly who I want working on my pile.  They’ve been more than helpful to me especially being over here.  The wife even agreed to take it down before I get home so I’ll have a really nice “welcome back from you year in a sh!t-hole” present.   I’m sure most of you will haze the crap out of me for most of the things I’m wanting, and I’m sure everyone will have a different opinion but that will make for a “fun” conversation.:stick:



First off thank you for your service.

I know of another guy on the mailing list who returned and ended up spending a lot on his Jeep as well.  He went with D60's and a 5.8L.

MIT was the first one to ever do a SYE I believe.  Back then, they were really expensive, I think around $600 for just the conversion.  They are an old shop who's been around for a while.

Everyone likes to hate on drums but there is nothing wrong with drums.  3/4-1T drums are huge.  The only downside is weight but otherwise bulletproof.  I'm guessing you'll be going to an E-350 brake master since that's really popular now.  I've been meening to do it myself.  Parts are uber cheap.  I priced a rebuilt master at $19.  Another upgrade would be to go with a TJ dual-diaphram booster as well.

I'd go with tube fenders up front since that's legal.  Then go with something like a crusher corner and steel flare.  I'd even consider going with a Gen-Right stretch kit to give you a bit more wheelbase.  That's one of the things I'd like to do.

Still, even with a V8, I would have gone with 5.13's.  You're are in CA where it's all about rocks and crawling.  Although you are going to have to do a transmission swap and could go with a NV4500 to get the lower first or go auto and let the TC do the work.
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Re: New/future project
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2008, 05:21:30 PM »
Or use a 4:1 ratio in the transfer case does miracles for rockcrawling
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2008, 06:54:14 PM »
Or use a 4:1 ratio in the transfer case does miracles for rockcrawling
Yep, Check your PM's AW!

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Re: New/future project
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2008, 06:54:34 PM »
Or use a 4:1 ratio in the transfer case does miracles for rockcrawling

35" tires, 4:10 and an automatic seems to do just fine in low range.  I'd rather have lower gears for the highway, but for the rocks they work fine.  For comparison my last rig had 37" tire, 5:38's and an automatic - the YJ seems pretty similiar.
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Re: New/future project
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2008, 07:28:37 PM »
35" tires, 4:10 and an automatic seems to do just fine in low range.  I'd rather have lower gears for the highway, but for the rocks they work fine.  For comparison my last rig had 37" tire, 5:38's and an automatic - the YJ seems pretty similiar.

Most of the guy's I know out here shoot for at least 100:1 low crawl ratio.  I know a couple guy's with 2.5L's who are around 200:1.  They make for some SMOOTH crawling.  They seem to just walk up stuff bigger Jeeps have trouble with.
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Re: New/future project
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2008, 09:04:15 PM »
Most of the guy's I know out here shoot for at least 100:1 low crawl ratio.  I know a couple guy's with 2.5L's who are around 200:1.  They make for some SMOOTH crawling.  They seem to just walk up stuff bigger Jeeps have trouble with.

So you mean:
4.88 axles,
2.72 or so (4.0 if upgraded) t-case,
4.0+ doubler/crawl box,
and 3.56 or something first gear ratio? Can't exactly remember...

With those basics you'll get to 200:1, right? Isn't there a doubler that is at 6:1? If that's true then a 4:1 t-case and that would get you to 400:1!

Sorry about that... but it sounds like jetcracker has a plan! I'm sure he's leaving out some details though...

Also, Thanks for serving the country!

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Re: New/future project
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2008, 07:26:27 AM »
Most of the guy's I know out here shoot for at least 100:1 low crawl ratio.  I know a couple guy's with 2.5L's who are around 200:1.  They make for some SMOOTH crawling.  They seem to just walk up stuff bigger Jeeps have trouble with.

2.8:1 1st gear
2.72:1 low range
4.11:1 diff gears
approx 2:1  TC ratio

That gets me just under 100:1 ;)   If you run an auto you get a "free" nearly 2:1 reduction from the torque convertor when it's not locked.
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97 TJ - daughters project

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Re: New/future project
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2008, 01:01:41 PM »
Hey, jetcracker....

I feel your pain main, i'm still stuck over here in the same SH** HOLE...only got about another 60 days left then i can finally go back to my darling TJ...lol...i got stuck in one of those 15 month rotations (yeah, i'm army...lol) so i had some extra cash going on midtour...threw some $$ into my heep...had me a good old redneck time with my old man, drinking beer and working on the jeep...can't wait til i can get back and get moving on it again....ever notice how the work never seems to end once you start upgrading?

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Re: New/future project
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2008, 01:34:29 PM »
2.8:1 1st gear
2.72:1 low range
4.11:1 diff gears
approx 2:1  TC ratio

That gets me just under 100:1 ;)   If you run an auto you get a "free" nearly 2:1 reduction from the torque convertor when it's not locked.

Even with the 2:1, it's only 62:1 which is still pretty far off 100:1.   Actual gearing is still only 31:1. :hump:
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