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95yj4

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electric fan circuit
« on: October 08, 2008, 03:37:15 PM »
I'm gettin close to doin the FoMoCo fan mod, but have a question on the wiring/circuit part. I've seen a bunch of different ways to do it, all of which have it so the power in-rushes. I know I've seen somewhere on here about a slow-on circuit or set-up so it doesnt in-rush, but I can't seem to find it. Does someone know where to find it or just know how to do it? Thx

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Re: electric fan circuit
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2008, 09:22:30 PM »
http://www.dccontrol.com/0820.htm is what I'm going to switch over to in order to operate my fan.

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Re: electric fan circuit
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2008, 11:21:52 AM »
In my case, I used a 3 position switch, and wired the down position as auto to the DC Controller that Bounty mentiones (it has a cable for the IGN, which switch the fan off if there is no current), and connected the DC controller to the high speed cable of the fan.  In the up position, the switch powers a 40A relay connected to the low-speed wire of the fan, so if the DC controller ever fails (it's worked flawlessly for 2 years so far), I have a back-up.

For the controller, you connect botht he negative and positive cables to the battery, the blue wire to the AC compressor (so that if the compressor turns on, the fan does too), the yellow wire to a 12V source (you can go to the battery if you want the fan to continue to turn even when the Jeep is off, or you can go to an ignition wire, or to a switch connected to an ignition wire, as I did, so I can turn the fan off for river crossings and such).  Then connect the negative and high speed positive fan wires to the controller.  For the relay, I also connected to the battery as a source, and connected the output to the low speed wire as stated before.

As for the temp, I set the DC Controller to maintain 180* temperature (keep in mind that the controller reads the temp AFTER it has gone through the radiator), and thus it keeps the Jeep at about 195* regardless of how hot the day is (and I live in Miami, so we get plenty of those here).  The controller comes with this setting as a default, so you do not need to ad any jumpers to the controller.

So now, I can have the fan turn automatically (DOWN postition on the switch), turn it off (MIDDLE position of the switch) for water crossings, or override the controller and run the fan at low speed (UP position of the switch) which is more than enough power to keep the Jeep cool even in 90*+ days.

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Re: electric fan circuit
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2008, 03:38:36 PM »
Bounty Hunter, which one are u planning on running exactly? I dont see them mention anything about a slow start(or w/e u want to call it)

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Re: electric fan circuit
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2008, 06:45:19 PM »
You want to use the FK35...  And they all have slow start; the controller increases fan speed as temp rises to maintain temp.  This means the fan will pull less amps.
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Re: electric fan circuit
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2008, 11:20:55 AM »
Great! Thanks a lot for the info. Just need to get everything sorted out and then I'm ready. One more thing though, is there a cheaper alternative then getting a brand new higher ouput alternator($300)? If you could let me know where and about how much. Thx

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Re: electric fan circuit
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2008, 04:54:32 PM »
95yj4  go to my Project page there is a Url to ebay for a 130 amp reman for 69.00.
Jeffy ordered the 160 amp from that guy I plan on gettin the 130 I don't winch :)

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Re: electric fan circuit
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2008, 05:08:34 PM »
95yj4  go to my Project page there is a Url to ebay for a 130 amp reman for 69.00.
Jeffy ordered the 160 amp from that guy I plan on gettin the 130 I don't winch :)

Mine's a 170A.   :thumb:
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Re: electric fan circuit
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2008, 05:10:44 PM »
Sorry Jeffy Bad Quote :(

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Re: electric fan circuit
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2008, 05:57:53 PM »
Well worth the money, I might add.  Not to mention a really good bargain.  My fan runs directly off the ignition since I haven't had time to wire in a switch or a thermostat.  One of these day's I'll get around to it.  Winters coming so I'm sure I'll have to turn off the fan.  I've had some instances where the fan cooled off the radiator too well on really cool days.  I noticed it when the heater took longer to start pushing heat.
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Re: electric fan circuit
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2008, 10:32:32 AM »
Great! Thanks a lot for the info. Just need to get everything sorted out and then I'm ready. One more thing though, is there a cheaper alternative then getting a brand new higher ouput alternator($300)? If you could let me know where and about how much. Thx

Because the slow start of the FK35, it will not pull nearly as many amps as a direct switch that turns to full speed when the fan turns on.  I can tell you it pulls less than 25A, because I have the controller on a 25A fuse, and I used it for about a year with the stock alternator before I went with a 170A alternator.  By the way, those $300 alternators are ussually 300A rated; you dont need nearly that much; I got a 170A power boss or something like that from eBay and it has worked fine for about a year and a half...
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Re: electric fan circuit
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2008, 03:46:17 PM »
Yeah I looked into the alt. on ebay, definitly looks like a great candidate, thanks for the info! well its either I get the 130 or for like a $100 I get the 160. Dont really plan on ever runnin a winch but just in case.....

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Re: electric fan circuit
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2008, 05:25:23 PM »
If you go bigger than 130 Better Plan on bigger cable off the battery and to Alt also.

One reason I stay on with 130.

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Re: electric fan circuit
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2008, 06:53:44 PM »
If you go bigger than 130 Better Plan on bigger cable off the battery and to Alt also.

One reason I stay on with 130.
I just had a #2 cable made and added it from the alternator to the battery, on top of the factory wiring.

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Re: electric fan circuit
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2008, 09:46:41 AM »
If you go bigger than 130 Better Plan on bigger cable off the battery and to Alt also.

One reason I stay on with 130.

That reminds me, I have to change mine as well...  So, what exactly does this involve, by the way?  Is it a real PITA to do, or is it simple?  I got the wire with the alternator, but never got around to installing it...  (lazy!)
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